Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[BigOrangeFanatic]

Who's arguing otherwise?

I'm just pointing out the fact he just got fired from an easier place to win with better talent.

But he's not a tater head gump from bammerland

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I think this is a reasonable point of view. But Herman won a lot there. We would be pretty pumped in comparison if he had the same record here. And it's feasible. He would have us competing with Florida/UGA. Better coaching record than anybody else in the east. No reason he couldn't build us back to a 7-8 win floor every year. Once we get back there anything can happen.

He also would have a chance to start fresh and change his approach after escaping a possibly toxic environment. Now would he be entering another toxic one here? Maybe. But he also might better know how to get ahead of those problems the second time around. Better to have the experience than thrusting our toxicity on a first time head coach.

This is the type of risk I think we are in the perfect position to take on personally.

This is somewhat valid. I get the "fresh start" idea IF we get rid of Fulmer and most, if not all, of the staff. I DO see potential in the "burn it down" idea.

That's about 15 million to 20 million dollars of risk. We just took about 10 million dollars of risk in 2017 and failed.

I dunno who all these guys are that like to take risks like this but I sometimes have a little poker game at my cabin.......... and suckers are welcome.

 

[BeecherVol]

You realize he took over a program that was 4-7 for two straight years, and built them back to being a winner right?

He got fired for winning?

 

[Batman1948]

Unless you're Butch Jones and then no one wants your dumbazz.

Butch was not an on field coach at Bama. He carried Nick's jock

 

[tn88volfan]

What we want

what UT gives us year after year

 

[BeecherVol]

You really want to compare a GA team Texas beat that went 11-3 to the one Tennessee beat that went 8-5...

He also beat a USC team that finished 11-2 in his first season.

There's a reason that 1 game dont tell the whole story over a 5 year tenure. No different that UGA.

 

[Smokeytom]

Bring me Herman.
Bring me Freeze.
Hell, bring me anyone,
But Jeremy.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Texas fans and the naysayers around here said the same stuff about Barnes. A change of scenery helps some experienced coaches. Because of Barnes he would get the open arms treatment here. That goes a long way in jump starting a program. At Texas he was under the gun to win conference championships Day 1. Different deal.

71% wins with a modern O, good recruiting and no scandals. Never out of any game before it starts like we have been for the past dozen years.

Texas does not own the state in recruiting anymore. To get quality talent you have to work at it. He did.

Seems so simple, but it’s Tennessee...we make everything difficult.

 

[volbeast33]

Do you know how effing obnoxious we would be if we had just beaten a team like Georgia in the sugar bowl? Lol

And how bad we would want him fired when the next season was disappointing.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

He got fired for winning?

Literally. 32-18. We would kill for that. Don’t know why you are so against him. I guess you love getting blown out every week.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

So, I heard last week, comparison being made to Mark Stoops with Pruitt. KY gave Stoops time and a it worked out, so we (TN) should give Pruitt the same. Valid comparison? Who would take Stoops over Pruitt today given the opportunity?

 

[Skizer41]

Sark turned down Texas because he knows Saban is retiring next week and he will get the Bama job.

Hasn't Texas courted Saban several times before? Wouldn't it be funny if ole Nick told Sark he was retiring yet he made a deal with Texas behind his back

 

[m1al]

You watch halftime of the Ole Miss/Indiana game? Seems Joey Galloway agrees with me. You go to Bama playing with nothing but high 4* and 5* it overvalues your stock and you get an even better head coaching job.

Joey Galloway, says it.. Well hell, no way he could be wrong... I guess that settles it...

 

[volfaninpa]

After last night Clemson bought, I mean recruited a 5 star offensive lineman and he committed today.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Do you know how effing obnoxious we would be if we had just beaten a team like Georgia in the sugar bowl? Lol

Yeah, but I'd like it BETTER if Tom Herman had actually MADE Texas back. Saban is one obnoxious interview...... every dang time...... and backs it up more often than not.

Texas didn't.

 

[Mullins2010]

 

[volfaninpa]

Is the mentioning of Jay Graham in this article going back to when Turner was at Texas A&M?

 

[johnsonbrewer]

 

[Newman]

man I hope not

The Bengals deserve the disaster artist known as Jim Turner

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So, I heard last week, comparison being made to Mark Stoops with Pruitt. KY gave Stoops time and a it worked out, so we (TN) should give Pruitt the same. Valid comparison? Who would take Stoops over Pruitt today given the opportunity?

TN has heavily out recruited UK. Its actually more of an indictment on how bad Pruitt is. Giving a coach time is fine but you have to give the players/admins/boosters/fans a reason to be patient. Losses to GA St and BYU aren't it. Major regression in year 3 aren't it. Having more enemies then friends on campus isn't it. TN is trending down and thats why and where the angst is coming from.

 

[gordonr24]

His OL unit was the worst in the NFL and got Burrow killed so many times this season. But Pruitt is a dumbass and would hire him.

 

[SPEDVoL14]

So a guy that has a history of being extremely tough to work with.... par for the course.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Please no. Hes bad

 

[HankHill]

Checks out. Hire the OL coach that may have ruined Joe Burrow’s career and cannot create a hole for joe mixon.

 

[BeecherVol]

Literally. 32-18. We would kill for that. Don’t know why you are so against him. I guess you love getting blown out every week.

Agreed.

The point I've made is winning those games at Texas with his talent and that schedule doesn't equal winning the same amount of games at UT where he doesn't have a talent advantage and is playing a tougher schedule.

To have a similar comparison you would need to know he was going to recruit as well as Saban and Smart but still lose 3 or 4 conference games a year.