Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[FBtime]

For all those who think they "know" who we should hire as HC, and will second-guess our new AD if he does not please them with this hire:

Our administrative leaders have hired an AD who is universally lauded as a top notch big time AD; a top 4 AD in the entire country per a respected publication; a young innovative AD who comes from an outstanding family of athletic administrators/coaches. He deserves the support of the fanbase. So lets give it to him. In spades.
Let him do his job. Support his choice as our HC, without hesitation or equivocation. Don't be a Jimmy Hyams or John Adams clone/mouthpiece. Tune them and those like them OUT. This is our time to rise up, again.
This program needs us all to row the boat in the same direction; against the Tide. Be a Tennessee Volunteer!
Go Big Orange!

 

[butchna]

Tennessee President Randy Boyd in the official release of the Danny White hire:

"The greatest decade in UT Athletics begins now."

Love Boyd but wish we’d stop making these proclamations.

 

[NashVolDavis]

Question for the board, if we were to hire Kiffin back do we believe he would embrace our traditions and history this time around? I seem to recall him pushing the USC theme while here the first go round. I would hope he'd buy in this time to our traditions and build upon them. Not trying to be negative toward Kiffin but if it worked out, I'd want him to be ALL in with the Vols.

This time around he would HAVE to embrace tradition - it’s all we have to recruit to.

 

[I4Jay]

Imagine telling an all time great Vol football alum “nah you can’t work out in here at the facility you helped build”

the unwarranted arrogance of some of the coaches that we have hired is ****ing alarming...

 

[Hollovol05]

Some of these guys are 100% not gonna be eligible at UT after this investigation - better to start looking for a spot if you’re compromised before the details get to the media. Really sucks, but some of the guys we’re losing would stay if they could.

Help me out. Does this tweet from Tom Mars, who was Cade Mays’ lawyer before he went to work for the NCAA, say that players who received impermissible benefits have a better chance of playing if they remain at their school and don’t transfer?

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

I don't care who it is. I just want our rivals to see the hire and say "oh ****". I want to be unbearable to be around when I cross paths with gators, gumps, and puppies. That's all I really want.

 

[engineerVOL]

Love Boyd but wish we’d stop making these proclamations.

90s were alright.

 

[TheTimeIsNow]

I just wanna win.

 

[05_never_again]

Imagine telling an all time great Vol football alum “nah you can’t work out in here at the facility you helped build”

the unwarranted arrogance of some of the coaches that we have hired is ****ing alarming...

That was Dooley, wasn't it?

 

[sspineda]

Just wait. Kiffin will be this cycle’s Gruden.

Things are proceeding just as planned.

 

[jakez4ut]

It's definitely possible, but I think the dynamic you mention is more likely to be true if you're talking about a guy jumping from a lower level of competition to a higher one (e.g., G5 to P5).

If a dude is fielding successful teams at a P5 program, any P5 program, I think the chances are pretty good that he could go somewhere else and do the same thing. For example, it isn't surprising to me that James Franklin went to Penn St and has been good there, given what he did at Vandy. It isn't easy to recruit to Iowa St, and they are a middle-to-bottom tier program in that conference, but he's gone 26-19 in conference play there and is 24-12 if you throw out his very first year. Came very close to winning a conference championship there this year and won a NY6 bowl.

yeah, kinda adressed some of this in my reply to hank.

i don't think it matters all that much in the end, i don't think he's a realistic candidate. as of today he's in a way better situation at ISU than we are.....

plus, i just really want to see Kiffin fist pumping on our sidelines again....lol.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

I don't care if it's Lane. I don't care if it's Freeze. I don't care if it's Herman. I don't care if it's Dudley Do-Right. Just bring me a coach that can recruit and win. As long as that happens, I'll be happy. I'm putting my faith in our new AD. Whoever he hires, I'll give them a chance, even if it doesn't seem spectacular, because it seems like we finally have an AD that knows what he's doing. Even if it's a headscratcher, I'll give him a chance. I just want to win again.

DCJW

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Help me out. Does this tweet from Tom Mars, who was Cade Mays’ lawyer before he went to work for the NCAA, say that players who received impermissible benefits have a better chance of playing if they remain at their school and don’t transfer?

That's the way I understood it, but I'm not a lawyer. I was waiting for someone else to comment on it. It got lost in the shuffle I guess.

 

[jakez4ut]

I wonder if White is headed over to Jacksonville...

for what? seafood?

 

[therickbol]

48 on this prick:

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Appreciate you making my point for me. Flash. He can design some good offense. It's flashy. Points are important. But we aren't talking about OC. We are talking about HC. He is a grade A for offensive ingenuity. His grade on every other trait applicable to being a HC is below a C. Maybe he gets above a C for recruiting but I do not even think that is a given. He doesn't have the time commitment and discipline to be great at recruiting. It takes too much time and energy. He would rather do other things with his time (i.e. not work).

 

[engineerVOL]

Love how we just pivoted right off of Jamey Chadwell never change VN

 

[butchna]

Wow.

Save that ink, Tee.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Love Boyd but wish we’d stop making these proclamations.

Obviously poking fun at Pruitt/Fulmer

 

[NoogaVol96]

Does anyone still need a reminder it’s not going to be Steele?

 

[engineerVOL]

I wonder if White is headed over to Jacksonville...

Hey if Trevor Lawrence decides to model for H&M instead of pursue football we could convince Urbz to reconsider.

 

[butchna]

Phil definitely mad and telling him all this

When your ex moves on to the next guy 3 days later.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Love how we just pivoted right off of Jamey Chadwell never change VN

Who?

 

[90 Vol]

Fulmer was about to trot Steele wasn’t he.

Yes.

 

[sona]

Appreciate you making my point for me. Flash. He can design some good offense. It's flashy. Points are important. But we aren't talking about OC. We are talking about HC. He is a grade A for offensive ingenuity. His grade on every other trait applicable to being a HC is below a C. Maybe he gets above a C for recruiting but I do not even think that is a given. He doesn't have the time commitment and discipline to be great at recruiting. It takes too much time and energy. He would rather do other things with his time (i.e. not work).

It's really about excitement. Lane can bring it by the bucket. Former players, recruits, a whole lot of us fans...Kiffin would ignite Knoxville around the VOLS.

That's all it is, and some of us think that he does have the potential to go all the way to the top. UT needs the hope and excitement more than ever. It doesn't have to be Kiffin but it can't be some staid old boring D minded retread either.

 

[jakez4ut]

Unless the new AD is of a different opinion, the chancellor seemed to plan on hiring a sitting head coach. Makes me wonder if Stoops fits their bill. Will be interesting to see what names start leaking out with a new guy in the mix...id like to think we’ll have more options.

stoops definitely fits the bill....he's a hands off hire, and he can just run the show.....brings instant credibility in just about every part of the game.....and would instant command some respect from folks left in the building, players, other staffers, fans and media.

stoops would check every box, and then some.

the trick is, is he really even a realistic "hope" for this job? my gut says no. unless he's just itching for a big pay check and a challenge.....?