Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Ashevolle]

They operate out of Florida possibly Texas but all their Launches have been at the Kennedy Space Center

Now they launch the Starship from Boca Chica TX. I believe all future launches will be from there for that project at least.

 

[omghulkhands]

I wish we could have got Milton

 

[volatil]

I got tired just watching this offense. Damn they snap the ball like every 3 seconds.

 

[Sleegro]

You should watch The Expanse. Fun sci-fi show. Can’t wait till we colonize Mars with Commander Musk.

I love that show but I'm a couple episodes behind.

 

[PA Vol]

Golesh is a great coach so I want him here as TE coach. But yes, to your point, I am very worried about recruiting.

If the defensive staff is a home run then it may not matter at first. If the offense produces it’ll recruit itself. But in the short term we need some experienced recruiters and if he brings his UCF offensive staff with him then he has to nail the defensive hires even more so than before (the current anxiety is that his defenses have sucked, but now they will need to be as good of recruiters as they are X and O guys).

 

[volatil]

I wish we could have got Milton

McKenzie Milton responds to Dillon Gabriel's reaction to Josh Heupel news

 

[butchna]

I bet you three years ago when Pruitt was hiring guys with SEC and NFL experience you thought differently.

Then what happened?

 

[Volsdeep4]

McKenzie Milton responds to Dillon Gabriel's reaction to Josh Heupel news

Kind of messed up he didn’t tell them? I hate to hear that..

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Is Heupels offense more like Kiffin or Leach?

Complicated answer. This is a long article that may give you some insight into his offensive philosophy. Here are a couple snippets to give you an idea:

Golesh has a simple take on the UCF attack:

"What makes us unique is the tempo—I don't know that anyone plays at the tempo we do.

"The goal is to have as many possessions as you can--because every time you have the ball you have the chance to score.

"What also makes us unique is the width of our splits, our guys using the entire width of the field."

Golesh is enough of a college football historian to appreciate how Heupel arrived at this point in his offensive thinking.

"He (Heupel) has lived several different lives offensively," says Golesh.

"He played in the air raid at Oklahoma. Mike Leach's one season as the offensive coordinator in Norman was 1999, Josh's first year playing at Oklahoma. That kind of revolutionized football at that time.

"Then he coached under (then Oklahoma offensive coordinator, former Indiana head coach and current Ohio State offensive coordinator) Kevin Wilson at OU as part of this new age of spread, triple-option, RPO (run-pass option) football.

"Then Heup went to Utah State (2015) and took some of these principles as far as tempo and wide splits.

"And then when he went to Missouri (2016-17) he truly implemented the whole thing—and he had an elite quarterback (Drew Lock, now the starting quarterback for the NFL Denver Broncos) to do it with."

As the new kid on the block, Golesh has learned the philosophies that lay the groundwork for why the UCF attack is successful.

"The biggest misconception is that you throw the ball all over the yard," he says.

"We actually are as balanced as anybody in the country as far as run-pass.

"It's not air raid, it's not traditional spread. It's a combination of all that--but it starts with running the football which makes it unique. And then being able to take advantage of matchups created by tempo and the splits.

"The hardest thing to adjust to is the tempo because it's really hard to practice.

"With any offense it comes down to the quarterback. When he can be ultra-fast with his decisions and when he is incredibly accurate with the football, those two things make the whole thing go.

The UCF Offense: Evolution of a Yard-Gobbling Monster - UCF Athletics

 

[tnhunter 10]

Austin.

I spent many of nights on 6th street. Good times.

 

[VolGee4]

I looked back, and Urban brought 4 assistants from Utah to Florida- OL, WR, QB/OC, and secondary coach. He did retain Strong and Locksley.

I’m not too concerned about our offensive staff from UCF. I do think he needs to hire a couple of people on defense with SEC or P5 experience and recruiting ties.

 

[PA Vol]

Then what happened?

Pruitt brought in plenty of talented dudes doing exactly the same thing that Bama, Auburn, LSU, UGA, and Florida are doing. He sucked as a head coach and that’s why he was outed in the manner that he was.

I think JH is and will prove to be a better head coach. But it won’t matter if we don’t get the jimmy and joes here.

 

[Catbone]

Complicated answer. This is a long article that may give you some insight into his offensive philosophy. Here are a couple snippets to give you an idea:






The UCF Offense: Evolution of a Yard-Gobbling Monster - UCF Athletics

You're the man thanks!

 

[PA Vol]

I looked back, and Urban brought 4 assistants from Utah to Florida- OL, WR, QB/OC, and secondary coach. He did retain Strong and Locksley.

I’m not too concerned about our offensive staff from UCF. I do think he needs to hire a couple of people on defense with SEC or P5 experience and recruiting ties.

His defensive hires are going to be so important.

 

[Kristy*]

But. . .

Similar to Trey Smith. He was a very good productive player but reports from the senior bowl have said he’s very raw. Even said his technique was archaic. That’s a huge red mark on his coaching

 

[ndubvols]

I know VQ initially made it sound like Steee didn’t want to stay on. Has their tune changed at all?

Are there any other legit options out there right now? I’ve seen the Ms. St. DC mentioned a few times, but is there anything to that?

 

[Bantha fodder]

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Best thing about Twitter, Jason Isbell just freaking liked my reply!!!

One of my favorite artists. His songwriting is top shelf.

 

[Kingston Vol]

If the defensive staff is a home run then it may not matter at first. If the offense produces it’ll recruit itself. But in the short term we need some experienced recruiters and if he brings his UCF offensive staff with him then he has to nail the defensive hires even more so than before (the current anxiety is that his defenses have sucked, but now they will need to be as good of recruiters as they are X and O guys).

Yeah, the good news is there are a few layups recruiting wise this year. Hayden and Simpson want to be here - so if he doesn’t get them, it’ll signal huge trouble.

I’m just not very optimistic right now, but we’ll see. Getting Arnett as DC would be good. Going any lower than him seems problematic.

 

[Sleegro]

Again I’m just talking about Launches. I’m sure they do a lot of testing and stuff in other states. Texas has NASA so I’m sure they are there as well.

No official launches in Texas. The falcon launches in California and mostly Florida. SpaceX bought the village of boca chica to build and test Starships. Eventually they will probably make it an official launch site for it but probably from a converted deep sea oil rig off the coast since it will be such a big loud rocket you can't be that close to residents. But for now they do test flights. YouTube starship sn8 flight. He launched that giant 14 story tall, 30ft wide, stainless steel silo 40k ft in the air, cut the engines and flipped over sideways to belly flop down. Then right before the ground relight the engines to flip back upright and land. That was the first attempt at that belly flop landing by anyone ever. If not for an easily fixable loss of header tank pressure at the very last second, they would have stuck the landing right in the middle of the landing pad. It's insane.

 

[RiotVol]

Logic points to bringing his entire offensive staff with him as being a huge mistake.

We can justify it. Get behind it. But it screams of “best staff in America” nonsense that we’ve already been through.

I’m good with it if he’s like “these are my guys, they know my system, and i don’t have the time to train coaches to train players.” Butch was trying to tell us an Accord is a sports car.

 

[engineerVOL]

Watching the 2018 AAC Championship Game (UCF/Memphis). The UCF backup quarterback Darriel Mack Jr. is really, really bad. I mean, seriously. I would be shocked if all our walk-ons are not better. Surely every scholarship QB could blow him out of the water. With this system that possibility gets me excited.

Also, the UCF D struggled mightily in the first half of this game. Woof. Memphis's running back DESTROYED them over and over. This was a classic Mike Norvell team.

It was all bad in the first half apart from the score in the final few minutes. Juiced the entire stadium.

Second half, everything tightened up. UCF scored 5 TDs. Memphis scored a FG. UCF dominates the 2nd half for the championship win.

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Lord help the game thread if we give up 24 in Q1.

 

[Batman1948]

Who you talking about

Bob Shoop---he's at Miami but not their DC

 

[Deebowbear]

Bob Shoop---he's at Miami but not their DC

Good leave him there

 

[Orange Studs]

Kind of messed up he didn’t tell them? I hate to hear that..

I believe the leak caused that to happen. It came out before before he got a chance to tell them.

 

[BP4Prez]

Kind of messed up he didn’t tell them? I hate to hear that..

Heupel said during his intro press conference that he met with UCF players Wednesday morning, I believe.