Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Ulysees E. McGill]

No I definitely don’t mean Willie Martinez.

Was being really sarcastic to make my point..

 

[Z06VolinWV]

My bad, couldn’t remember brooks name, and thought this was him.

 

[BIGORANGEBUBBA]

So because both failed, you’d rather roll the dice on an unproven SEC staff?

That's my preference. Not that it matters. I don't care if I'd ever heard of them or not. Can they coach? That's all that matters and there's only one way to find out. Give them a chance.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Why on earth would a starting punter transfer?

He wasn’t starting. He was barely the holder.

 

[CoalVol2020]

The Punter AND the Kicker......morale must have reached an all time low on the team.

The backup scout team long snapper and holder both entered the transfer portal as well.

 

["It's Time"]

How do you not know that Joe Doyle hasn’t played a down this year, yet watch games?

 

[volbeast33]

I'm not sure what to make of Milton and Gabriel's comments about Heupel. Really doesn't seem to be love lost

Gabriel was pretty upset that he hadn’t told the team bye when he first heard about it.

 

[SoilVol]

Fun fact. The QB with the most single season rushing TDs in Virginia Tech history is of course Michael Vick Bruce Arians.

That was actually beaten in 2016 by Jerod Evans. Evans had 12, Arians had 11.

 

[Kingston Vol]

For me it’s the immediate impact upon arrival and how fast they lost it when he left. Locke regressed big time the following year.

Yeah, I can’t really argue against that, except to say that even while Lock regressed, the overall team record basically stayed the same.

You would know better than I, but it seems like this offense is capable of putting up a ton of points against bad teams, and that those stats can be hollow.

 

[Vols4us]

Backup punter. Paxton Brooks was the punter last 2 years.

How quickly they forget.

 

[Smokeytom]

AAC coaches making the jump to power 5 is a brutal trend:

Nothing brutal about this imo.

Norvell and Collins are TBD (Collins changing from a triple option system was never going to be a quick fix).

Diaz is doing good things at Miami.

Herman was pretty dang good. Not sure Sark will do any better.

Rhule speaks for himself.

Frost is still a good coach imo. I’m not counting him out at Nebraska. That’s a Northwestern or Indiana type of project now.

Fuente hasn’t been bad. VaTech is a tough place to win.



If anything it follows the same pattern as every new hire - it’s a crapshoot.

 

[Volsdeep4]

No..it got leaked on SM before he had a chance to tell them, and it hurt the UCF players..that is one of the reasons, if not the reason that DW was so pissed about the leak.

Ohhh got it. Thanks for clearing that up

 

[Volsdeep4]

I believe the leak caused that to happen. It came out before before he got a chance to tell them.

That makes sense. Thank you

 

[volsagain]

Why on earth would a starting punter transfer?

He was beat out by the backup QB how could you miss that ?

 

[BeecherVol]

True or false???

Stopping the run on defense will be more important because teams will try to establish the run against us more than most teams.


rationale behind such a statement is teams will see the way to offset our fast pace offense as playing ball control offense

Depends on the team really.

The better teams are not gonna get too far away from what they do. Thats why they re better.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Yeah, I’m fine with him bringing his staff for the reasons you mentioned. But two things give me pause:

1) It seems like he chased Lebby and Briles and neither wanted to come. So, by default, there are people he didn’t want to bring with him who he is now bringing.

2) none of these guys have a known track record of being elite recruiters. If the head coach isn’t good at it, you need a few hounds. Maybe Burns or Merritt evolve into it quickly.

Also I’m worried about not having anyone with Tennessee ties on the coaching staff. I think it really helps to have alums who will go the extra mile and also provide a bridge to the “Tennessee” way. This is Josh Heupel’s program now - I don’t mean to suggest otherwise. But there needs to be some guys there who can help him understand Tennessee and what the fanbase and former players want/expect.

**** the same old "Tennessee way"...it is the reason we are in this damn neverending hellish nightmare.

We need to...no...we HAVE to create a new "Tennessee Way"...that is the only way out of this hellish black hole.

Alums, boosters, former players, and all of us peons have to get on board with creating this new "Tennessee Way" or we are doomed to forever fail.

They ones that won the decades long power struggle went scorched earth to do so, and the only way to make that worth it for all of us in the long run is to use the opportunity to create a whole new paradigm.

I read an article one time discussing things like this that called it "creative destruction".

 

[Ron Swanson]

Jaylen Wright’s dad...

 

[LotteryPick]

Just speculating here:

I think Jimmy Holiday would make sense as a RB in this offense. His build and speed seem to be in line with what Heupel uses back there.

 

[Kingston Vol]

**** the same old "Tennessee way"...it is the reason we are in this damn neverending hellish nightmare.

We need to...no...we HAVE to create a new "Tennessee Way"...that is the only way out of this hellish black hole.

Alums, boosters, former players, and all of us peons have to get on board with creating this new "Tennessee Way" or we are doomed to forever fail.

They ones that won the decades long power struggle went scorched earth to do so, and the only way to make that worth it for all of us in the long run is to use the opportunity to create a whole new paradigm.

I read an article one time discussing things like this that called it "creative destruction".

Eh, I wouldn’t say things were run the “Tennessee way” by any real stretch the last decade. Fulmer came back but Pruitt had us doing everything like Alabama.

 

[HankHill]

Yeah, I can’t really argue against that, except to say that even while Lock regressed, the overall team record basically stayed the same.

You would know better than I, but it seems like this offense is capable of putting up a ton of points against bad teams, and that those stats can be hollow.

Well i think that’s at least a good start for us. I would love to get back to expecting to run teams like Georgia state, Vanderbilt, or any cupcake opponent. I do believe that our offense does that with JH. It is to be nice to have an actual identity again. We haven’t had that since butch’s two good teams. Hopefully with JH anytime you play Tennessee... you know they are going to be really good at QB and WR. May be suspect in other places but your secondary and LBs better be ready to cover someone.

 

[SSVol]

I don't think Donde knows how bad she nuked the program.

Nobody knows what the outcome is. Might be best to wait and see how things go before passing any form of judgment on the effort.

 

[tnhunter 10]

Heupel will not score even close as he was at UCF.

You have some very bad takes.

 

[Catbone]

Heupel will not score even close as he was at UCF.

True

 

[Pepe]

I wouldn’t be upset with Steele. But his shenanigans give me pause. Plus, I prefer a young DC who has adapted to the offenses of today’s game. I think Arnett is basically Wilcox 2.0. Gonna be big time.

Imagined shenanigans?

 

[engineerVOL]

You want to feel old?

21 years ago today Titans lost the Super Bowl

Sad. Do you want to feel sad.