Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[RDU VOL#14]

Big mistake showing fear, it knows your weakness now

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Welp, things are back to their dysfunctional normal on rocky top. Didn’t take a month.

Sure seems that way. Not even a complete house cleaning can get rid of our stink. Good grief.

 

[butchna]

First chink in my impression of Dan White’s armor IF these accounts are true. I understand the emphasis on diversity, but ultimately you back the HC you hired’s hand. This is micromanaging on a Pruitt scale and rumbles of Randy Shannon at UCF.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

First chink in my impression of Dan White’s armor IF these accounts are true. I understand the emphasis on diversity, but ultimately you back the HC you hired’s hand. This is micromanaging on a Pruitt scale and rumbles of Randy Shannon at UCF.

I am hoping it’s false. But the BVS in me says it’s not.

 

[thomaseusin]

We are all suddenly insiders when it comes to UCF inner workings. Anybody has that post with the 10 stages of coaching searches? Could use it to keep track of my emotions

 

[VolGee4]

He hired Randy Shannon for Heupel. That's a fact.

I'm not saying we know for sure this is happening here - we don't know it to be true, but past evidence says it *could* be.

But here would be my retort to your statement that Heupel wouldn't take the job if it were true:
1) $4M goes a long way, and we gave him a very long deal.
2) He was one subpar season away from being on the hot seat at UCF - especially with a new AD in town.
3) It does not have to be contentious that the AD wants a say on the construction of the football staff.

Just curious, how is him hiring Shannon "a fact?" That's kind of what I do, deal in facts. Is there something out there about it? Or, are we dealing in message board facts. Just asking.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Let me preface this with saying, I'd prefer my Head Coach choose his entire staff.

But there's some flawed logic in pretending an Athletic Director is football competent enough to hire a Head Coach, but not a Defensive Coordinator.

Again, obviously it's better for the head coach to do it, but it's not like the Gymnastics coach is finding candidates for a Defensive Coordinator.

 

[Ashevolle]

He hired Randy Shannon for Heupel. That's a fact.

I'm not saying we know for sure this is happening here - we don't know it to be true, but past evidence says it *could* be.

But here would be my retort to your statement that Heupel wouldn't take the job if it were true:
1) $4M goes a long way, and we gave him a very long deal.
2) He was one subpar season away from being on the hot seat at UCF - especially with a new AD in town.
3) It does not have to be contentious that the AD wants a say on the construction of the football staff.

Is it a fact that DW hired Shannon for Heupel or did he bring the two together and Heupel retained the ultimate decision in the matter? I've seen nothing out there to suggest that scenario one happened over scenario two.

 

[butchna]

You got Swanson’d like 15 pages ago on this one. Whole discussion on why the last names don’t match

He’s got me on ignore.

 

[Geronimo]

Any relation to LeBron James?

It’s his non-related half cousin twice removed on his step-dads imaginary girlfriend’s side of the family.

I hear they are not close. She thinks MJ is the GOAT.

 

[mikemist]

Since you terrorize us all with your avi ... take that!

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe

 

[Batman1948]

A poster on VQ that appears to be connected somehow said this and Volzown confirmed its the truth...

Didn't DW say in his press conference that he hired JH and JH would put his staff together because I'm an AD, not a football coach?

 

[UTMVol76]

Just curious, how is him hiring Shannon "a fact?" That's kind of what I do, deal in facts. Is there something out there about it? Or, are we dealing in message board facts. Just asking.

I’m curious on that too, not picking

 

[Ashevolle]

Big mistake showing fear, it knows your weakness now

The Quadroclops has spoken.....

 

[preacherwebb]

He’s got me on ignore.

But then you could still see his posts.
I think it is more likely that you have him on ignore.
(not that I care who has anyone nor how many on ignore ... )

 

[JacketVol]

More alarming to me would be if LA's post a few days ago about the diversity hire initiative indicated that this decision was being driven by those above White. Perhaps White was charged with making a diversity hire at the coordinator, if not the HC, level by his superiors. Maybe this is being driven to appease some of the non-athletic leaders within the University, maybe this is all bunk if not just a reach. But there is at least some circumstantial evidence that could support it. Combined with the history of academia meddling and BVS, it's just sort of how we can assume the worst.

Seems like you have to be black to even be considered. If true, then we are a racist University. Hire the best coach period. Don’t care if our head coach is black or purple. Just win.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Not looking good. Conklin just hired a coach for his staff.

* for our staff

P.s. just kidding, but seriously why is DW making this hire and not the HC?

 

[therickbol]

Just curious, how is him hiring Shannon "a fact?" That's kind of what I do, deal in facts. Is there something out there about it? Or, are we dealing in message board facts. Just asking.

You know good and well that is his 'thing' on here. His interpretations of tidbits of info from media websites quickly become his 'facts' that he spouts.

 

[preacherwebb]

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe

Well, take that too ...

 

[drvenner]

I'm hearing that the staff will be fully introduced at halftime of tomorrow's basketball game.




In Baton Rouge

Hope one of them punches Will Wade dead in the face.

 

[Geronimo]

Well, take that too ...

Not much bothers me.

This bothers me.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Well, take that too ...

This is like @mikemist avi in gif form for me. Makes my skin crawl.

 

[pierce60]

So how long will it take for us to draw the conclusion Heupel hates it here because of DW and is leaving to be OC at Tarleton State?

 

[KPT_VFL]

@matts42012 makes it sound like instate 22 class is going to be a big swing and miss... that sucks. This was the best instate crop in a long time.

 

[Volator]

Just curious, how is him hiring Shannon "a fact?" That's kind of what I do, deal in facts. Is there something out there about it? Or, are we dealing in message board facts. Just asking.

It mets Kingston Vol's scenario, thus it is a fact.