Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[BruinVol]

I'm talking about the failed Pruitt, he still gained employment despite his failure here. Despite him being caught blatantly cheating.

Yea. And he likely won’t ever get A HC job again

that’s why I am saying A DC has to be careful taking our job. It’s likely his last big payday

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

We have somehow surpassed the 2017 HC search

Nah, these names are just thrown around in here and by UT media clowns. Mainstream media hasn't been reporting it.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Yep and that’s why many have no interest in our 1.5 mil dollar dumpster fire DC job

I just legitimately don’t think there’s a path to growth as the defensive coordinator here on the other side of Heupel’s offense.

When the offense is good, it will get all the headlines and credit. When it is bad, the defense will be hammered by time of possession.

 

[volbeast33]

Pay the guy you want what it takes and get it ******* done. This is getting stupid and provides no confidence in a battered fanbase.

It doesn’t matter how the fan base feels

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yea. And he likely won’t ever get A HC job again

that’s why I am saying A DC has to be careful taking our job. It’s likely his last big payday

That's because he's a piece of crap coach. His resume was all smoke and mirrors. That's why I qualified and said a "good coach" can recover. Pruitt's not a good coach.

 

[amazingGRACE]

Nah, these names are just thrown around in here and by UT media clowns. Mainstream media hasn't been reporting it.

Honest question. Do you think AP/vq/Brice etc have all been literally making these names & stories up for the past 2 weeks?

 

[BruinVol]

I just legitimately don’t think there’s a path to growth as the defensive coordinator here on the other side of Heupel’s offense.

When the offense is good, it will get all the headlines and credit. When it is bad, the defense will be hammered by time of possession.

Yep. We could go 9-3 next season and the DC get “nothing” to build his resume with

 

[SugarCC]

I don't like those, either. I don't think you have nearly enough information to make that judgment. Again, if we get the right guy, it won't be in spite of the plan. If we get the wrong guy, then I think we can all agree the search was a failure. It does not matter to me about the optics. We just need a good DC. I still think we get one.

This.
This, all day long.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Yep. We could go 9-3 next season and the DC get “nothing” to build his resume with

The fact Conklin seems to be legitimately interested is pretty surprising to me - and the fact we have not reciprocated that interest is even more surprising.

Many FCS coaches have complained about running a program during COVID. It’s just so tough at that level with no funding. Maybe he wants to chill for a couple of years as DC?

 

[volKano]

Yep. We could go 9-3 next season and the DC get “nothing” to build his resume with

See that’s what I’m talking about. Just stupid.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yep. We could go 9-3 next season and the DC get “nothing” to build his resume with

Everyone on the staff would be hailed as coach of the year candidates if they go 9-3. People smarter than you and I know and appreciate the challenges of defending with an offense that operates at Hypes pace.

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

Honest question. Do you think AP/vq/Brice etc have all been literally making these names & stories up for the past 2 weeks?

No sir, I do believe they've been getting them from somewhere but I'm not sure that all these guys we've been chasing actually had offers. We very well may have been "kicking the tires" but I doubt they all was offered. In my opinion it's different when you actually write up a contract n submit for signature then get denied vs asking or gauging interest and being told no. If this "deal" with House gets done and he becomes the DC then I personally tend to believe that it may have been house all along, especially with other defensive hires being made or vetted.

 

[BruinVol]

See that’s what I’m talking about. Just stupid.

I agree it’s stupid but it’s true

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

The fact Conklin seems to be legitimately interested is pretty surprising to me - and the fact we have not reciprocated that interest is even more surprising.

Many FCS coaches have complained about running a program during COVID. It’s just so tough at that level with no funding. Maybe he wants to chill for a couple of years as DC?

It’s infuriating. I don’t understand why he hasn’t been hired yet. If not him, stop playing around and go hire Reeves or Gillespie. Both have done very well and are aggressive DC’s.

 

[BruinVol]

The fact Conklin seems to be legitimately interested is pretty surprising to me - and the fact we have not reciprocated that interest is even more surprising.

Many FCS coaches have complained about running a program during COVID. It’s just so tough at that level with no funding. Maybe he wants to chill for a couple of years as DC?

Yea I understand your thinking but honestly once you coach at that level you get labeled as that for a long time. I bet he realizes his chance for upward movement is very slim there and it doesn’t matter how much success he has

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Danny White:

Step one: Pick up your phone
Step Two: Call the Pirate
Step three: Get his list of young DCs and the order to contact
Step Four: Hire the first one on the list.

The pirate knows coaching talent and has spotted good DCs recently before anyone else. He was dead on with Grinch and Arnett.

 

[BruinVol]

Everyone on the staff would be hailed as coach of the year candidates if they go 9-3. People smarter than you and I know and appreciate the challenges of defending with an offense that operates at Hypes pace.

That’s really not true. Outside of the DC for Leach what DCs for up tempo HCs have moved up to better jobs after winning ???

 

[Kingston Vol]

It’s infuriating. I don’t understand why he hasn’t been hired yet. If not him, stop playing around and go hire Reeves or Gillespie. Both have done very well and are aggressive DC’s.

I tend to believe the hire is going to come out of nowhere at this point.

 

[amazingGRACE]

No sir, I do believe they've been getting them from somewhere but I'm not sure that all these guys we've been chasing actually had offers. We very well may have been "kicking the tires" but I doubt they all was offered. In my opinion it's different when you actually write up a contract n submit for signature then get denied vs asking or gauging interest and being told no. If this "deal" with House gets done and he becomes the DC then I personally tend to believe that it may have been house all along, especially with other defensive hires being made or vetted.

I definitely agree not all the guys have had legit offers. But I feel like that’s because they turned us down fairly quickly.

By what’s been out there, I’d assume House, Washington, & Rodgers have been the only ones with contracts in front of them to be signed.

 

[Ashevolle]

I just legitimately don’t think there’s a path to growth as the defensive coordinator here on the other side of Heupel’s offense.

When the offense is good, it will get all the headlines and credit. When it is bad, the defense will be hammered by time of possession.

If our offense is good and defense is good, we will win and coaches will get raises and tenure. How is that a bad scenario?

 

[volfaninpa]

This whole time, I've been concerned that Heupel isn't ready for this stage. Perhaps it's Danny White who isn't ready?

 

[thistime]

I'm not saying that these media guys don't have any source of info but I think it is highly possible they are getting so many mixed signals, possibly by design, that they don't know who or what to believe. They all have this need to report any and everything they hear just to be first to get it out there right or wrong and make it appear like they have a clue or a inside source nobody else does. The only thing worse the no information is false information and I'm not so sure the sports media these days have a grasp on that concept.

 

[Kingston Vol]

If our offense is good and defense is good, we will win and coaches will get raises and tenure. How is that a bad scenario?

I’ll be honest, I don’t see a path to good so that is likely clouding my opinion.

The complicating thing is that even when this offense is scoring points, the speed by which it moves will still hurt the defense.

Of course you’d rather have more points than less, but I think our only path to success is winning a ton of 45-42 games - and that doesn’t make the defensive coordinator look good. Grantham at UF comes to mind this season.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

In all seriousness. Go get John Heacock. Pay him $1.5 - 1.75 mil and let’s ride.

 

[InVOLuntary]

That’s really not true. Outside of the DC for Leach what DCs for up tempo HCs have moved up to better jobs after winning ???

That's not what I'm saying. What I said was good coaches rise to the top. If one fails here it doesn't doom them to failure. It may set them back in their trajectory but it doesn't ruin their career.