Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Catbone]

We fire coaches every 3-4 years. Kids don’t want that.

Yes but in this case JH will be given 5 years minimum imo

 

[UpstateVol613]

Same in Houston. 36 hrs without power and water and only the coldest days on record for 120 years. And any updates on the news is this -
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[VolInDayton]

Not many since the hire. Only a handful of players have left that actually contributed.

A program can't easily replace 15 players leaving in college football.

 

[jakez4ut]

None since we got a new coach. All the transfers have occurred from the time of Pruitts firing. The remaining guys have been very positive on social media and appear to be happy with the change of atmosphere.

i think Key Lawrence hit the portal after JH was hired? but i don't think anyone else did, to your point. and most all of the transfers out were non factors, or known to be transfer candidates, except for maybe Wanya, Key, Eric Gray. they were the 3 that hurt the most, and really Key was the one that mattered the most out of all them. by all indications, wanya and Eric both had some external factors impacting their decision to transfer. Key, not so much. that was a "don't wanna be here" move as far as i can tell. still waiting on whether or not HT and/or Crouch come back. there's not been much reason to think either will return though, so those two would hurt as well, they seem to be all but "official" transfers....?

 

[VolInDayton]

Yes but in this case JH will be given 5 years minimum imo

If he is getting results. If not, no way.

 

[VolPack22]

Did any of you all catch the most recent episode of Peyton’s Places? He had Willie Gault on there so it had some good UT content.

I don’t think video exists of this play...I’ve spent a good bit of time looking for it...does anyone know if there is video of the play where John Ward said, “Willie Gault, ladies and gentlemen, is running all the way to the State capitol”

I got a chance to watch it and enjoyed it. Willie had once in a lifetime speed. He would be perfect fit for today’s game. And I loved the story about Reggie White and him not sharing his food. Thought that was pretty fun. I would like for Peyton to do an episode focused around Doug Atkins and Reggie. Probably would get a lot of streams on that.

 

[Batman1948]

So what was the point of Henry To'oto'o's video on Instagram showing all his highlights at Tennessee? Why would you show all that now if you were transferring?

Maybe he wants other coaches to see his best plays-----self promoting himself

 

[C-town Vol]

It’s performed via a quick diagnosis of pre-snap space and then executed via a power run game inside or a one-on-one vertical shot outside.

From that this is what has me excited with Hyatt and Wideman it could be interesting. Honestly, I am glad we went outside the norm on a coaching hire. I don't want the status quo, with the hire of a SEC coaching veteran any longer.

When you have a talent deficit, and in our case looming sanctions, you have to be very creative / “out of the box” to offset the deficit. I think this hire is exactly the kind of hire we needed in our current situation. I prefer old-school, power I, physical offense. I have a nostalgia with it. That combined with my belief of TN being a historic power program made me reluctant to accept TN going this route. However, with the current state of things, we might be best served being the “Oregon of the South”. Let’s go all in with innovative offense and highly creative uniform designs. We have a GREAT color palette to with with.

 

[Ace]

I don't disagree with your points long-term, I'm just not sure I buy it for the '22 class.

It would be great to get a bunch of in state in 22 class, but this staff is experienced and will get players. Elarbee and Golesh can recruit, but even better they can coach and develop. Elarbee is the key in all of this. We have not had a good offensive line coach in over 10 years

 

[Enki_Amenra]

'Cause no one has EVER brought something that was football, into this thread, right?

Cant believe I haven't seen a certain Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka mentioned. . .

 

[orange parmejohn]

Did Jay Hardy end up staying put at Auburn?

 

[Girth Brooks]

 

[volbeast33]

Yes but in this case JH will be given 5 years minimum imo

Good

 

[I4Jay]

If the QBs aren’t good, we will stink.

 

[UTMVol76]

i think Key Lawrence hit the portal after JH was hired? but i don't think anyone else did, to your point. and most all of the transfers out were non factors, or known to be transfer candidates, except for maybe Wanya, Key, Eric Gray. they were the 3 that hurt the most, and really Key was the one that mattered the most out of all them. by all indications, wanya and Eric both had some external factors impacting their decision to transfer. Key, not so much. that was a "don't wanna be here" move as far as i can tell. still waiting on whether or not HT and/or Crouch come back. there's not been much reason to think either will return though, so those two would hurt as well, they seem to be all but "official" transfers....?

Those guys will hurt, no doubt about it. But I still think we have talent on this roster and my hope is some real coaching pulls out potential that was left to die last year. I don’t expect us to beat Bama, UGA, or Florida, but I think it’s reasonable for us to expect wins vs teams that we have better talent then, and that’s quite a few on our schedule. 7 wins and CJH will build some heup.

 

[volfaninpa]

If the QBs aren’t good, we will stink.

1 of them will be good enough for this year. I mean, how much worse could they be compared to the past 4 years?

 

[UTMVol76]

If the QBs aren’t good, we will stink.

This is one area that I feel CJH has some groceries to cook with.

 

[Ace]

A program can't easily replace 15 players leaving in college football.

But this year we have 7-8 seniors taking advantage of another year to play. Plus if one time transfer does not pass, Henry T, Wright and Crouch will still be on the team. And players like Gray and Morris will be sitting at OK.

 

[Kingston Vol]

If the QBs aren’t good, we will stink.

You can speak better to this by being so close to UCF, but I heard a podcast where the hosts were talking about Heupel's offense, and how basically you need a QB who isn't afraid to sling the ball around and also put his head down and rush for 6 yards.

Basically they described it as a swagger position in this offense.

 

[preacherwebb]

Your go to gif I have noticed......a bit lazy of you not to be more original but I suppose you are a good representative of the rasslin and dog farts contingent.......soldier on, my unimaginative friend

My go to gif ...

 

[Ace]

We released him yesterday
Looks like he just threatened to go into portal

 

[volbeast33]

It would be great to get a bunch of in state in 22 class, but this staff is experienced and will get players. Elarbee and Golesh can recruit, but even better they can coach and develop. Elarbee is the key in all of this. We have not had a good offensive line coach in over 10 years

We need to approach recruiting like Clemson..... be in the 11-17 range.... get solid football players sprinkled with a few stars and very few misses.... in a few years our recruiting will be top notch bc we will be a solid program.

 

[BucVol98]

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[preacherwebb]

Yeah, if we don't get Simpson (and we aren't), it's very possible the in-state class makes a point to turn against us.

Simpson will shock the world and put on the orange hat with the Power T and the floodgates of recruiting will open ... okay, the floodgates are dependent on how well we perform this season, but Simpson is a Vol two Fridays from now, IMO.

 

[BarrythesnoUT]

Random question for everybody...

If I put the over/under on the number of our best four QBs (Bailey, Hooker, Maurer and Salter) that will still be on the team at the beginning of the ‘21 season at 2.5. Are you taking the over or the under?

Under. Especially if one of the underclassmen win the job.