Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

Status
Not open for further replies.
#162,826
#162,826
Smokeytom said:
Family is bigger than one guy. He’s had new coaches almost every year, so it’s basically 1 coach vs 85 players/brothers.
Click to expand...

If there was ever anything that’s been true, it’s that there is a huge disconnect for how fans think players on the team feel vs how players on the team actually feel.

Those players/brothers will likely still support HT except when they play vs his future team and not hate him.
 
#162,828
#162,828
You know something I find the most repulsive of all about recruiting ? These kids are becoming the "Meal Ticket" to so many people in their lives. Family, friends, handlers plus people they don't even know yet but have them on their radar. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. A high school or college kid is being leveraged to do what isn't necessarily best for him but what the people around him, and in many cases the people he trusts the most, think he can someday do for them........be a pay day. I know it's not new by any means but I guess it just seems more open for some reason.

I know this is the old way of thinking but at one time an athlete wanted a scholarship because he got his school paid for. Now they want a scholarship so they can get a audition for a chance at making to the pros. Most had better get a education and prepare for the future. One injury on the field or off and the dream ends. I've have never seen on any job application a space that ask your time running the Forty or about your Vertical jump but all of them ask about your education......they will all learn that lesson one way or another because the school means more than the coach.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BigOrangeLimey, Ulysees E. McGill, Glitch and 6 others
#162,829
#162,829
drvenner said:
No doubt. I am prepared to lose schollies and to have a bowl ban as well. I hope that it is minimized, but we have more bad news coming. As far as the staff goes, I am not thrilled with Willie Martinez, but still want to see how he does here. Overall, very happy with the staff so far.
Click to expand...
Only hire I dreaded. But if Heupel believes in him, I’ll be open to being wrong.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SmokinBob, Ulysees E. McGill, drvenner and 2 others
#162,831
#162,831
MarcoVol said:
If there was ever anything that’s been true, it’s that there is a huge disconnect for how fans think players on the team feel vs how players on the team actually feel.

Those players/brothers will likely still support HT except when they play vs his future team and not hate him.
Click to expand...
Fans of those players/brothers will not support what HT is doing to them even if they do....because we are fans. And from some of the Tweets after the mass exodus, I'm not sure you are entirely right about how they feel about it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SmokinBob
#162,832
#162,832
brentcontractor said:
Not only do we have to do the right thing. We have to perceive to do. My guess if we dont perceive to treat Tee fair, we will lose more donations & VFL than we will end of paying him.
Click to expand...
What’s fair about paying him to coach in the NFL? Can you name another example? Anybody tying up their donations because we didn’t pay him to work for someone else can perceive their dough going up their own bunghole for all I care...this is lunacy!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ulysees E. McGill and m1al
#162,833
#162,833
thistime said:
You know something I find the most repulsive of all about recruiting ? These kids are becoming the "Meal Ticket" to so many people in their lives. Family, friends, handlers plus people they don't even know yet but have them on their radar. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. A high school or college kid is being leveraged to do what isn't necessarily best for him but what the people around him, and in many cases the people he trusts the most, think he can someday do for them........be a pay day. I know it's not new by any means but I guess it just seems more open for some reason.

I know this is the old way of thinking but at one time an athlete wanted a scholarship because he got his school paid for. Now they want a scholarship so they can get a audition for a chance at making to the pros. Most had better get a education and prepare for the future. One injury on the field or off and the dream ends. I've have never seen on any job application a space that ask your time running the Forty or about your Vertical jump but all of them ask about your education......they will all learn that lesson one way or another because the school means more than the coach.
Click to expand...

Most of it has to do with money. Good or bad, it’s money.

Sometimes the reason is many of these kids don’t come from money. They’ve never had it, don’t know what it’s like to have it, but they know they can change their life and the lives of those around them by making it to the league.

For many, they believe it’s their only path to a different life.
 
  • Like
Reactions: barrylee and thistime
#162,835
#162,835
volbeast33 said:
As a parent of a player that was recruited on a much lower level..... this is an idiotic way of looking..... HT only has four years/ maybe an extra one due to covid to play college ball...... this has been a very difficult year for our players..... coaching staff all gone..... several friends transferring....possible sanctions..... toxic environment..... we need to sell the new UT to all our players, fans, and build our brand......
Click to expand...

What I would say it is idiotic is tying your future to ANY coach in this day and time.. The average coach tenure at a in P5 schools is less than 4 years so I would think the smart thing to do would be check out the school and not the coach. And remember all of your arguments about toxic environment, sanctions, friends leaving and the like were brought on BY THE COACH HE WANTED TO PLAY FOR.....so tell me how did that worked out. Maybe the school is what he should have looked at first.
 
#162,837
#162,837
MarcoVol said:
Most of it has to do with money. Good or bad, it’s money.

Sometimes the reason is many of these kids don’t come from money. They’ve never had it, don’t know what it’s like to have it, but they know they can change their life and the lives of those around them by making it to the league.

For many, they believe it’s their only path to a different life.
Click to expand...

Totally agree and it's sad anyway you look at it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MarcoVol
#162,838
#162,838
SweetasSoda said:
But we are not parents of the players. We are fans of the team. The team that needs the players to help get us through the things you mentioned. If he went in the portal and signed with another team nobody would blame him. We would not be a fan any longer. If he is waiting around taking classes that UT is paying for, contemplating going through spring practice, and trying to get into AL (our most hated rival) without having to sit a year all while Dad is downing Tennessee that invested so much in his son on social media..... Yeah, Tennessee fans are NOT going to have anything nice to say about him.
Click to expand...
Then Tennessee fans add to the problem..... this kid was sold a bill of goods by Pruitt and our university..... we failed miserable to make this a good and fun environment for these young men to come play football.... his dad( although he should stay quiet) sounds pissed off just like any of us would be.... His son is a potential nfl player whose draft stock is being hurt bc our university has been so toxic..... this attitude of we just want guys that want to be here is ridiculous..... we will end up with just people from this board lining up to play football.... F Bama.... they can’t take Henry T without a fight..... we need to get down in the trenches and slug it out with them or we will always be their b$tch!
 
  • Like
Reactions: nate from decatur
#162,839
#162,839
thistime said:
What I would say it is idiotic is tying your future to ANY coach in this day and time.. The average coach tenure at a in P5 schools is less than 4 years so I would think the smart thing to do would be check out the school and not the coach. And remember all of your arguments about toxic environment, sanctions, friends leaving and the like were brought on BY THE COACH HE WANTED TO PLAY FOR.....so tell me how did that worked out. Maybe the school is what he should have looked at first.
Click to expand...

How many years have you lived on this earth?

And how different do you think nowadays than you did when you were 18?

I mean no disrespect but consider your knowledge now vs then.
 
#162,845
#162,845
drvenner said:
No doubt. I am prepared to lose schollies and to have a bowl ban as well. I hope that it is minimized, but we have more bad news coming. As far as the staff goes, I am not thrilled with Willie Martinez, but still want to see how he does here. Overall, very happy with the staff so far.
Click to expand...

It’s the only hire that leaves a lot to be desired. We have short memories here and many don’t want to look at the past performance of CWM through the lens of reality.
 
  • Like
Reactions: drvenner
#162,847
#162,847
butchna said:
Didn’t know of his existence a week ago...now I’m stoked. Goes to show the vast majority of us don’t know squat. The fact that Harbaugh wants to keep him makes this a big deal.
Click to expand...
Seems "Need to hire recruiters" concern some had about CJH's staff is being addressed. Defensive staff is coming together and hope they bond quickly as a staff.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kristy*, SweetasSoda and preacherwebb
#162,849
#162,849
MarcoVol said:
How many years have you lived on this earth?

And how different do you think nowadays than you did when you were 18?

I mean no disrespect but consider your knowledge now vs then.
Click to expand...

60 years and in those years I have learned a lot and most of it the hard way. I just think it is sad that these kids and their parents seem to never look at the big picture just the shiny spot. You know just as well as I do that these kids are not making these decisions alone, coaches recruit the families as much as they do the kid in most cases and it's is that dream of playing Sunday's that is sold more than the education and that is the worst part.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DarthVol1, SweetasSoda, UTJoe and 3 others
New posts
Status
Not open for further replies.

VN Store



Back
Top