Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[99Vol]

Kid was afraid to throw the ball down field and miss a throw because he would be pulled immediately if he did anything wrong. I firmly blame Pruitt and staff for that.

Well, that and the fact that the line wasn’t into protecting the QB....

 

[engineerVOL]

..... So there’s a balance that every coach will differ on. Some coaches want you to push the ball downfield and can stomach more turnovers and some coaches prefer a safer more cautious approach.

Can I interest you in both?
-Jeremy Pruitt

 

[Orangeredblooded]

Shouldn't you be commenting on fashion or something like that?

That’s not what cheerleaders do, geez. They’ve been at enough games to pick up a thing or two on how that football thingy works. .

 

[HankHill]

Kid was afraid to throw the ball down field and miss a throw because he would be pulled immediately if he did anything wrong. I firmly blame Pruitt and staff for that.

I wish Jg felt that way haha.

 

[Jackcrevol]

But...but... your a cheerleader. What do they know?

underrated gif.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

I hope he gets in a game or two and plays specials teams but that’s it.

If he gets significant PT then we aren’t very good

Awww, come on. If Jancek is catching dimes in the 3rd quarter it would mean that we are destroying some team.


So I think that you should really hope that Jancek plays plenty. This coaching staff will run up the score any chance they get so that they can actually play 3rd string and develop the players correctly.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Awww, come on. If Jancek is catching dimes in the 3rd quarter it would mean that we are destroying some team.


So I think that you should really hope that Jancek plays plenty. This coaching staff will run up the score up any chance they get so that they can actually play 3rd string and develop the players correctly.

I still think Jancek will push for some field time. Kid is a very good receiver.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Shouldn't you be commenting on fashion or something like that?

So I get to design the new smokey grey uniforms??? Yes!

 

[UpstateVol613]

I was a little disappointed in the secondary. A couple of guys that i was hoping would make strides looked like they didn’t belong in the sec. i like our DL and the versatility they have to one and two gap against the run. It’s impossible to judge the LBs tho although i think the Garland kid looks the part.

What’s crazy is you replaced a DB head coach and the cupboard is so bare. That being said I think a lot of that had to do with JP trying to go head to head with Bama and UGA. When he was the bridesmaid and not the bride he fell way down his list.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I think if you named Bailey the starter and ran with it and built around him for 3 years the result would be very good.

He can lead this team. Will he? IDK.

I think he gives us the best chance at the moment.

Let’s see after summer ball.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Kid was afraid to throw the ball down field and miss a throw because he would be pulled immediately if he did anything wrong. I firmly blame Pruitt and staff for that.

I guess I see if as being sort of funny, like some of the arguments against HB may be agenda driven or something. Like his performance Saturday maybe should be discounted because he took advantage of some busted coverages but Hooker's performance should be excused because someone bumped his arm that led to his throwing a pick six. smh.

We say we need a QB who can push the ball down the field and I would assume that means we need a QB that can generate the highest yards per attempt. I mean it's about aggregate distance, right? It's not about one throw; it's about a body of work. jmo.

So last year in average yards per attempt, HB was at 8.5, JT was at 7.5 and JG was at 6.7. In the O&W game HB was at 17.33, BM was at 11.40, and HH was at 7.93.

I'm sure numbers don't always tell the whole story so we probably need to take some of HB's completions and yardage away because he doesn't deserve them and maybe add some to the other guys because someone blocked their view or a receiver dropped the ball or something, whatever, we need to do something to try to prove that the other guys can win us a lot more football games than HB because dawggone it, that's just the way it is and everybody just needs to accept that and quit making such a fuss. jmo.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Awww, come on. If Jancek is catching dimes in the 3rd quarter it would mean that we are destroying some team.


So I think that you should really hope that Jancek plays plenty. This coaching staff will run up the score up any chance they get so that they can actually play 3rd string and develop the players correctly.

Great point.

 

[MrVolton]

I was a little disappointed in the secondary. A couple of guys that i was hoping would make strides looked like they didn’t belong in the sec. i like our DL and the versatility they have to one and two gap against the run. It’s impossible to judge the LBs tho although i think the Garland kid looks the part.

Secondary recruiting was always one of my biggest disappointments during Pruitt’s tenure, even before the wheels really came off and I still thought there was a chance that he was the one.

 

[Jackcrevol]

There’s part of it though where you don’t want it to be all the QB does. That was his issue last year, which granted he was a freshman in a primarily vertical offense but he would come off too quickly and not let the play develop, leaving a lot of plays on the field. So there’s a balance that every coach will differ on. Some coaches want you to push the ball downfield and can stomach more turnovers and some coaches prefer a safer more cautious approach.

pruitt was a safer approach, so safe he preferred not to score

 

[pharmvol10]

Awww, come on. If Jancek is catching dimes in the 3rd quarter it would mean that we are destroying some team.


So I think that you should really hope that Jancek plays plenty. This coaching staff will run up the score up any chance they get so that they can actually play 3rd string and develop the players correctly.

This is something we should’ve been doing the last 10+ years. I pray that happens with this coaching staff, why the others didn’t think that way is beyond me.

 

[Ten_Titans]

This is something we should’ve been doing the last 10+ years. I pray that happens with this coaching staff, why the others didn’t think that way is beyond me.

I don't know if they thought that way or not. We literally couldn't blow teams out. If we built huge leads it wasn't until the 2nd half, and you are talking about maybe 2 games under Pruitt.

 

[SweetasSoda]

pruitt was a safer approach, so safe he preferred not to score

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Here's the cheerleader's take after spring practice.... The team seems to have come a long way in a few weeks compared to 3 years. OL minus the 5*s looked to actually be working together and focused. Have no idea what goes on in practice, but HB seemed to be in control. BM had some moments, and HH probably would look a lot better if he were allowed to run. There's a lot more work to be done with the play book, etc. before game time. I think we will have a QB this year for the first time in a long time. Excited about our WRs. Think the RBs will get the job done. Now defense... So many were held out we have no idea. The ones on the field did at least seem to know what they were doing so that is very encouraging. I think despite the bad reports we will have at least as good a defense as 6 teams we play. Not worrying about how many games we will win just how much progress we make. Cheering for this coach and the players who decide to stay and be Volunteers!

One of the few players that I thought really stood out yesterday was Warren Burrell, and not in a good way. Professional Wrestling is less fake than the spring football game that we just witnessed. The game was designed to create an illusion that we have an explosive offense. It was an illusion and it was working really well. There was no defense BY DESIGN. Then we had Warren Burrell who basically said “Eff this, I’m gettin’ mine”, steps in front of a Hooker pass and takes it the other way for six. It’s not like he can claim it was an accident. He had to go up in the air to get that ball. He was trying to wreck the show no matter what excuse he offers. I don’t know that we need guys like that on our roster. Such a selfish player. smh. jmo.

 

[drvenner]

He definitely isn’t terrible. I heard swain’s thought on him and i didn’t necessarily agree. I just think Bailey is raw and was a bad fit for chaneys offense. Bailey is a touch and pace thrower. That’s not a bad thing, i would consider joe burrow that type.

Couple things that i don’t think most realize is QBs are classified in various sub categories just like running backs (power back, one cut back, 3rd down back, etc) or other positions. It goes well beyond “pro style or dual threat”. It’s never made sense to me why QB recruits are classified more by their legs vs how they throw the ball.

You got power throwers like Stafford, mahomes, Rodgers, Herbert etc that can literally drive balls anywhere on the field at anytime.

Then you have pace and touch guys like Brady, burrow, Manning, bridgewater,darnold etc that rely more on anticipation and layering throws vs driving them.

Then you have body throwers: Trevor Lawrence, brees, baker mayfield, Tua, etc that is a combo of both but they slow down their release a little by trying to gain more torque and throw with their whole body.

Then the live flick throwers are guys like Zach Wilson and kyler murray where their release is faster like a baseball infielder but they can get sloppy with their lower body and feet. (Bringing their back foot off the ground when they throw is usually a sign of this)

None of these have a more direct route to success it’s all a scheme and philosophy based on what a coach wants in his QB.

Appreciate your response. It will be interesting to me to see who wins the job.

 

[volbeast33]

One of the few players that I thought really stood out yesterday was Warren Burrell, and not in a good way. Professional Wrestling is less fake than the spring football game that we just witnessed. The game was designed to create an illusion that we have an explosive offense. It was an illusion and it was working really well. There was no defense BY DESIGN. Then we had Warren Burrell who basically said “Eff this, I’m gettin’ mine”, steps in front of a Hooker pass and takes it the other way for six. It’s not like he can claim it was an accident. He had to go up in the air to get that ball. He was trying to wreck the show no matter what excuse he offers. I don’t know that we need guys like that on our roster. Such a selfish player. smh. jmo.

Is this serious?

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Is this serious?

Serious as a fart attack

 

[Volbucky]

One of the few players that I thought really stood out yesterday was Warren Burrell, and not in a good way. Professional Wrestling is less fake than the spring football game that we just witnessed. The game was designed to create an illusion that we have an explosive offense. It was an illusion and it was working really well. There was no defense BY DESIGN. Then we had Warren Burrell who basically said “Eff this, I’m gettin’ mine”, steps in front of a Hooker pass and takes it the other way for six. It’s not like he can claim it was an accident. He had to go up in the air to get that ball. He was trying to wreck the show no matter what excuse he offers. I don’t know that we need guys like that on our roster. Such a selfish player. smh. jmo.

Wtf

 

[drvenner]

Sorry, I didn’t want to go there. I’ve been to Grundy County- there are good qualities.

Have you been to the Grundy County Auction?

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Serious as a fart attack

Maybe a weird sense of humor. I thought it was funny. We've had a defense that for 2 years running has been in the top half of the conference and against conference competition - in both terms of total defense and scoring defense, and there's a lot of concern about our defense coming into this year. As I see it we have only one issue, ILB. I expect that will get sorted out - the rest of the defense is returning production. Those guys have played a lot of ball and we've significantly beefed up the coaching staff on that side of the ball. I do think the O&W game was a show put on for the fans and the show this year was all about offense. I don't think we'll know what we really have or how well it works - on either side of the ball - until we line up against Bowling Green. They'll be legitimately trying to stop us and we'll be trying to stop them. If we have what I think we have we'll come away with a win something like 56-14. jmo.

 

[drvenner]

Is this serious?

Wtf

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