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Question. Without knowing the guy is a fighter. If a drunk guy in a bar gets ready to throw a punch at you, what would you do?

You just going to let him land it? You going to dodge it and walk away calmly? You going to dodge it and punch back? You going to punch him before it lands?

Lol, I mean it’s easy to sit on the sideline and be like “well he is a fighter he can kill people with his hands blah blah blah,” but take a normal person into account and I guarantee you that a normal person doesn’t just stand there and let the individual punch him and I almost guarantee you that every time a fight ensues. The issue with this one is the fighters punches were so accurate there was no “fight” to be had because ol boy went night night.

None of this should apply in the video that I saw. Once the bigger guy bumped into the "victim" and even if something was said, all he had to do was walk away. I am not risking jail or getting hurt for something someone spontaneously says to me. I use my words, not my fists. If big guy walks away, victim most likely does nothing. It's really that simple and the reasonable thing to do.
 
That has never been the IRS rule for room and board. Likely applies to meal plan too.

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Stipends, you could be right. I'm only familiar with stipends where services are required (teaching for example). I'm guessing they don't want to say football is work/services performed, so yeah I could see that not being taxed. On the other hand are the funds used for incidental expenses or school-related? I'd guess this is just ignored by most anyway. Good point.
Many people are unfamiliar with this and I wonder how many families or students actually file it, but basically with any scholarship the only tax free portion is books/tuition. Housing, meals, etc is taxable income and schools do report to IRS and do provide students with a form for tax purposes.
 
Love to see Dad jokes taking off.
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Will the IRS now consider the scholarship, room, board, tutoring, etc. Capital Gains income? This could backfire dramatically, especially since our new sitting President has the tax hunger…
Capital gains? Pretty impossible...there would have to be a "gain" and "sale" attached to a valued asset to even tax anything. Plus the cash flow from the sale to even pay the tax...which college kids wouldn't have.
 
I disagree with all of that and really don’t see where you’re coming from at all. You can’t flinch at someone in a bar like you’re going to hit them and not expect consequences.

You can scream this at the top of your lungs until you are blue in the face, dude is still going to be on the wrong end of an expensive lawsuit, and they will find he was in the wrong, and rightfully so.

What the guy "deserved" or whatever is immaterial to the fact that it wasn't anything even approximating self defense... For like a dozen reasons. Don't have to like it, but I promise you the judge will not care.

Here's how to deal with a drunk ass hole if you are a trained fighter and you don't want to catch a charge.

 
If someone flinched at me, I'm swinging. Why? because you never know what someone will do.
So you would've been that guy during the cold war to send the missiles.

Sometimes it's better to take a deep breathe and realize how childish it all is. (Mature) adults don't get in fist fights. Kid games.
 
None of this should apply in the video that I saw. Once the bigger guy bumped into the "victim" and even if something was said, all he had to do was walk away. I am not risking jail or getting hurt for something someone spontaneously says to me. I use my words, not my fists. If big guy walks away, victim most likely does nothing. It's really that simple and the reasonable thing to do.

The little guy got ready to swing lol. So again if he swings at you what do you do? Worst thing about Lawyers y’all always have a what you probably would do until you actually get tossed into the real situation 😂
 
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The little guy got ready to swing lol. So again if he swings at you what do you do? Worst thing about Lawyers y’all always have a what you probably would do until you actually get tossed into the real situation 😂
Yeah I'm sure the pro fighter has never had a much smaller man throw a punch at him before. It was basically life or death 🙄
 
Yeah I'm sure the pro fighter has never had a much smaller man throw a punch at him before. It was basically life or death 🙄

Who said anything about life or death lol.

Again, a normal person probably isn’t walking away from someone who throws a punch at them. It’s dumb to expect it from a fighter either.

Way to try and make me look dumb. Good try.
 
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The little guy got ready to swing lol. So again if he swings at you what do you do? Worst thing about Lawyers y’all always have a what you probably would do until you actually get tossed into the real situation 😂

He did not swing when the big guy initially bumped him. Only after the big guy went back to him did he flinch at him.

I am mainly a criminal defense attorney and defend things like this. I don't sue people. I can give you reasonable expectations of what a jury (who have never been in trouble) will consider. I wouldn't consider that reasonable behavior, and many others would believe the same thing.

Additionally, I have never hit anyone in my life with a closed fist. Maybe gotten into some shoving on the basketball court, but I don't go looking to hit people.
 
Who said anything about life or death lol.

Again, a normal person probably isn’t walking away from someone who throws a punch at them. It’s dumb to expect it from a fighter either.

Way to try and make me look dumb. Good try.
He didn't throw a punch at him... So what video are you even talking about?

You're acting as if firing off on the guy first or getting knocked out himself were the only two options.

It's dumb. Even if the smaller guy swung on him, which he didn't, I'm sure the professional fighter would have been just fine. Anyone with a brain can watch this and determine it had zero to do with self defense.
 
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He did not swing when the big guy bumped. Only after the big guy went back to him did he flinch at him.

I am mainly a criminal defense attorney and defend things like this. I don't sue people. I can give you reasonable expectations of what a jury (who have never been in trouble) will consider. I wouldn't consider that reasonable behavior, and many others would believe the same thing.

No one believes someone getting smoked in the face a couple of times is reasonable behavior because this world is full of wusses now lol. The drunk guy should of never of flinched at the individual. Period. He did and he got smoked for it.

Does that make it okay? Possibly not. But to say just because the man was a “fighter” that he should have just kept walking is dumb. Should the individual have bumped the guy? Probably not but in fairness the drunk dude was taking up the whole floor.

I just think it’s funny to always think people should just “walk away,” what if he walks away and the guy throws a cheap shot? Then what? What if by some crazy turn of events the cheap shot knocks the fighter out. Then what? It’s funny to just say someone should do something because of the actual outcome of an event.

But, again what if the event outcome changes like I said above? Then what? The fighter should of done what he did and that outcome wouldn’t of happened.

Do I think if the guy sustained major damage that the medical bills should be paid for? Sure. If the guy just went night night well, then the drunk guy just learned a valuable lesson.

This is my take and I will stick to it.
 
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