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Saw that Malachi Nelson committed to Oklahoma in that 23 class. At one time my top want at QB …yes even over Arch. Was surprised that he’s currently rated as the 3rd overall QB in that class behind Arch (of course) and DANTE MOORE…who we’re strong with (maybe leading). Maybe we should hold off on shutting down the program and investing in a badminton team…just in case.
 
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engineerVOL said:
I’m sorry @Bassmaster_Vol but I sort of disagree, although I’m with you in spirit, I just see an irreconcilably incomparable landscape of football now compared to Clemson’s rise. I was indifferent before the NIL, but now that that’s in effect and now conference realignment, I’m even more certain of our perpetual mediocrity. It’s really hard to see a path forward for Tennessee.
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I don't see why people think the NIL will be bad for us? We have one of the largest most passionate fanbases in the country. We are top 5 on all social media platforms. And we haven't even won anything. NIL will be a huge advantage for us if they do it right.

The point is, Miami and FSU were on top and Clemson was in the tank. That obviously flipped. Right now Bama and GA are on top. But Saban will retire; Ga will also take a step back, and we will rise back up again. It's inevitable. We live only in the moment, but if you look over the history of college football, this has always been the case. It is definitely harder in the SEC though than in the ACC which is why I want our schedule to be as easy as possible until we get built back up. It's absolutely foolish to want to play a murderers row with where we are right now.
 
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butchna said:
CuznGreazey posted on here how happy UCF fans were to be rid of him citing one of the reasons as he doesn’t incorporate the TE in the passing game. A film study guy I follow disagrees with that assessment but if you passed first grade math? Heupel’s TE’s totaled 44 receptions the last 3 seasons. Malzahn’s…32.
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They are really an ignorant fanbase. They don't know much about football. They've only been following it for about 5 years now. They are going to be turned upside down when Malzahn tanks down there.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I don't see why people think the NIL will be bad for us? We have one of the largest most passionate fanbases in the country. We are top 5 on all social media platforms. And we haven't even won anything. NIL will be a huge advantage for us if they do it right.

The point is, Miami and FSU were on top and Clemson was in the tank. That obviously flipped. Right now Bama and GA are on top. But Saban will retire; Ga will also take a step back, and we will rise back up again. It's inevitable. We live only in the moment, but if you look over the history of college football, this has always been the case. It is definitely harder in the SEC though than in the ACC which is why I want our schedule to be as easy as possible until we get built back up. It's absolutely foolish to want to play a murderers row with where we are right now.
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Yeah, people lose sight of the fact that everything is cyclical in CFB. Everything. Nothing lasts forever.

I do, however, think all this NIL stuff is going to be a wash. Top players have been getting paid for decades, its just out in the open now. These business owners that are paying entire teams or whatever are going to realize its just a waste of money and then it'll go back to bidding wars for the top 250 players again.
 
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“Instead of letting Chaney make the play call, Pruitt called to the box and ordered a pass play. The particular pass play hadn’t been practiced in this situation. Guarantano was quickly pressured and ended up throwing an interception into the hands of Tigers defensive back Smoke Monday, who returned the ball 99 yards for a touchdown.”

Jeremy Pruitt is directly responsible for one of Jarrett Guarantano's worst plays of 2020

The play call: “Cornbread”
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
It would be a disaster for our rebuild to add Oklahoma and Texas, but it will make the conference and the university a lot of money so we’ll go along.
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What is the end game to this moneygrab? Surely people don't think it's a competitive advantage...since everyone is getting it. We just need more and more money to throw at buyouts? It sure hasn't led to more wins.

The SEC becoming popular and flooded with money is the worst thing to ever happen to a team like UT. We never needed that help. It's only making it relatively harder. I'm against all this. Screw the SEC. Let's go make $30mm less and win 10 games a year in the ACC. Just win. After all - is it about winning games and enjoying watching or it it about mOnEy?
 
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Devo182 said:
What is the end game to this moneygrab? Surely people don't think it's a competitive advantage...since everyone is getting it. We just need more and more money to throw at buyouts? It sure hasn't led to more wins.

The SEC becoming popular and flooded with money is the worst thing to ever happen to a team like UT. We never needed that help. It's only making it relatively harder. I'm against all this. Screw the SEC. Let's go make $30mm less and win 10 games a year in the ACC. Just win. After all - is it about winning games and enjoying watching or it it about mOnEy?
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I agree with all you said . We never needed money from the conference but we sure had reasons to use it . If we we're lucky enough to have hired a really good coach we would be battling bama ever year for the sec .
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Just want to put this out there for the "TN will never be good again" crowd.

Clemson's last national title was in 1981 before Dabo won it in 2015. Clemson's last conference championship was in 1991 before Dabo won it in 2011. Things change.

During that time period when Clemson wasn't winning titles, Miami and FSU were dominant. Now where are FSU and Miami? Both are absolutely terrible and Clemson is on top of the ACC and one of the top 3 teams in America. This is what happens. Programs rise and fall. The same will happen for us. One day Saban will retire, and when he does, Bama will take a step back making our schedule easier. When bama takes a step back, another program in the west will likely rise like an LSU or an AU. When that happens, our rivals' schedule will get tougher.

GA is not always going to recruit like they are. If Kirby doesn't win it all this year that fanbase is dumb enough that they're going to want to push him out too. When they do, GA will likely take a major step back.

We will be on top again. We have more tradition and more championships that Clemson does. If they can come back, so can we. But it is certainly a more difficult road in the SEC.
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Don't let those people get to you man. When we are back, they will be the first ones wanting to fire Heupel when he goes 10-2 in a "down year" in 2026.
 
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