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SweetasSoda said:
No, people are absolutely saying he can't be good in college and using the logic that he really was not good in high school either because no one would have heard of him if he didn't have 3 great receivers making him look good.
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I didn’t understand it the way that you did but that assumption would be incorrect as well.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
Some WSU Cougar fans are gonna get a slap in the mouth when they get a good taste of "Game-Day Guarantano". . . it's kinda surprising that his bad performances are seemingly overlooked. Truth is, I hope he gets it right and has a great year, but it seems like he's still making the same bad decisions with the same bad habits.
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They are about to learn what Battered Cougar Syndrome truly is.
 
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Jack Burton said:
I really wish these articles would be released earlier in a coach’s tenure so people will believe the bad news and actually be vocal about change. After hearing this and watching us lose to Georgia State there would have been enough support to fire that goober without setting our athletic department on fire. As usual we waited a year too long.

Aaron Murray said Pruitt didn’t have the emotional intelligence to be a head coach. We should have listened.
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An article like this came out about Butch and we tarred the guy. Had to leave the beat, actually.
 
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The Comb said:
I'm ready
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volbeast33 said:
Nobody should give up on HB and I hope he becomes the absolute best that his talent allows him to become…. That being said…… no one should look at a players High School stats and use it to determine the type of player he will be in college…. It’s two entirely different games played at two entirely different speeds.
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I’m for him, but I’ve seen a Worley like career for him. Plenty of time left, but he’s been behind 5 QB’s since arriving and no practice reports have been being polite.

As Biq Shaq once said, “You’ve either got Sauce, or no sauce.”
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
An article like this came out about Butch and we tarred the guy. Had to leave the beat, actually.
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Yup. Sadly, the article was whatever and there wasn't much to disagree on necessarily, as it was a bunch of actual quotes. What was awful was the headline, which hardly did justice to the fairly balanced article. After days of pitchforks over on 247, the big guys - Barton or Lucky or whoever - started responding - and said the headline was an editor's choice. If anyone should have been canned, it was the editor. The writer was a Vol grad and good friend of other writers and VFLs. Sort of stupid, the whole thing.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
I’m for him, but I’ve seen a Worley like career for him. Plenty of time left, but he’s been behind 5 QB’s since arriving and no practice reports have been being polite.

As Biq Shaq once said, “You’ve either got Sauce, or no sauce.”
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I try not to get too involved in all the prognostication at QB. People develop strong preconceived opinions for different reasons. It will play itself out at the end of the day. But.....my view the longer I watch it play out is that Bailey is very similar is lots of ways to Worley. His strengths and weaknesses are similar. High School achievements similar. Probably slightly more talented than Worley but not by as much as we would like to think.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
I’m for him, but I’ve seen a Worley like career for him. Plenty of time left, but he’s been behind 5 QB’s since arriving and no practice reports have been being polite.

As Biq Shaq once said, “You’ve either got Sauce, or no sauce.”
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Worley was another one that had phenomenal high school stats….You are correct about his struggles to move up the depth chart.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
No, people are absolutely saying he can't be good in college and using the logic that he really was not good in high school either because no one would have heard of him if he didn't have 3 great receivers making him look good.
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I just want to point out that I never said anything like that (Considering someone has taken over the back and forth with you over a comment I made about HB's receivers being studs)

All I implied was that HB's HS numbers could be inflated because he played with great receivers, and I stick by that

BUT, I never said that HB can't or won't be good in college
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
I’m for him, but I’ve seen a Worley like career for him. Plenty of time left, but he’s been behind 5 QB’s since arriving and no practice reports have been being polite.

As Biq Shaq once said, “You’ve either got Sauce, or no sauce.”
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Imagine being the National Gatorade POTY, throwing for over 13,000 yards and winning 3 straight state titles...and yet only being rated an 86 on the composite lol.

Obviously HB played in much tougher waters, while also being surrounded by much better talent, but ultimately when evaluated for the next level, he wasn't all that close to the other 3 (TL, Watson, "elite white person" Fromm).

He's right in the eval area of guys that typically need time to develop and hopefully will find their way. Just needs patience or maybe a different, more clasically "pro style" (I feel like we need a better term these days) system. He'll be fine.
 
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Devo182 said:
Imagine being the National Gatorade POY, throwing for over 13,000 yards and winning 3 straight state titles...and yet only being rated an 86 on the composite lol.

Obviously HB played in much tougher waters, while also being surrounded by much better talent, but ultimately when evaluated for the next level, he wasn't that close to the other 3 (TL, Watson, even Fromm). He's right in the area of guys that need time to develop and hopefully will find their way. Just needs patience or maybe a different, more clasically "pro style" (I feel like we need a better term these days) system.
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He outperformed Fromm. Fromm’s team didn’t even make the championship game.
 
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butchna said:
Sometimes it’s in the delivery. He was really preening and condescending it up. Warming the towels for Ubben imo. Report it don’t preach it.
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It was also the quotes from unnamed sources if I recall. I understand not revealing a source and writing an article based on that information. But quotes from unnamed sources are a bit different.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Joe Milton had the best day by far today…wide receivers are beasts with Tillman having the best day today…..thinks Mitchell and banks will start…… feels jimmy holiday was a load management day….. nothing else really stood out today.
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Any news on how the DL is responding to Garner's pushing?
 
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