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That's just it. Compete with Wisconsin. Wisconsin isn't a hotbed of talent, are they? And yet they are consistently flirting with elite status -- double digit wins, conference titles, Rose Bowls. They haven't won a national title but they've just been a model of a solid, consistent football program. Why can't Nebraska do that? They have the facilities and the boosters and the fanbase. It can't have all been steroids.

Wisconsin plays the same brand of football they always have dating back to Alvarez the Beliema and now Chryst. All in the family. It also fits the brand of football played in their high schools. Nobody saying you can’t win at Nebraska but that you can’t win at Nebraska trying to play pac 12 football which is what they have tried the last two coaching hires. Pelini should have never been fired but he showed you can win there if you play the way it’s meant to be played at that school. I bet if you put Beliema at Nebraska he would have them winning in the 3 year window they thought Frost would.
 

That is apparently another former NFL players son that also coaches with Dilfer. Apparently the kid in the video is the starting TE and ran the wrong route and as he was coming off the field Dilfer said something and the kid talked back.

Dilfer is like the kids other dad basically.
 
Yes sir. And they usually have stuff in the back if you want a different cut.

Having worked in the meat department of Leo’s Spring Street Supermarket in Cookeville back in the day, I’m always partial to a local butcher shop. Our unofficial slogan at Leo’s:

“Nobody beats our meat.”
You can beat our meat, but not our prices!

Seriously brisket looks great
 
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Might be easier to explain Nebraska's success than it is to explain their failure since then.

Two words: horse steroids
That and when the rules changed regarding partial and non qualifying players, when they joined the big 12. Osbourne was relatively vocal in his opposition to that rule cause he knew the jig was up without the ability to go get those great athletes across the country that couldn't get in to other big programs.
 
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Understand all that. But then you have Oklahoma, Iowa State, Wisconsin, etc. My point was he should be doing a whole better even in Nebraska if he is a great coach. It's almost like people are not questioning his coaching because of where he is. Beast's post seems more likely with trying to start at the top. Not saying anyone can get Nebraska back to where they were.
Imo, he was not a good coach, at least nowhere near the hype.

Check out his record before the perfect season. Also, look at his record overall, excluding the perfect season.
 
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Imo, he was not a good coach, at least nowhere near the hype.

Check out his record before the perfect season. Also, look at his record overall, excluding the perfect season.
Almost as if the media put him on such a pedestal that they can't talk about the coaching he has done at Nebraska. Instead they go over and over about recruiting.
 
what were the indicators? we lost our UT orange tabby rescue last year. sweetest animal i've ever met. my kids still ask to pray for him at night.

came home one night to find him breathing shallow and with tachycardia. read up on symptoms. could've been rhododendron or some poisonous plant he ate?
For my cat: hair loss & weakness. I understand there are other symptoms as well.
 
Almost as if the media put him on such a pedestal that they can't talk about the coaching he has done at Nebraska. Instead they go over and over about recruiting.
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He's 18-28 without the perfect season.
Also, if you look at UCF's history, they strangely seem to have a bad season, followed by a very good season. This happened plenty of times before Frost and they look a lot like the 6-7 season followed by the 13-0 season.

Seasons before Frost:
O'Leary 0-11, 8-5, 4-8, 10-4, 4-8, 8-5, 11-3, 5-7, 10-4, 12-1, 9-4, 0-12, Frost 6-7, 13-0

If you take out Frost's name from the list, it just looks like what UCF had been doing for years.
 
He inherited a mess at Arkansas as you know… Did relatively decent there. Three straight bowls also knocked off Freeze a few times and LSU as well… Arkansas is just a tough tough job. Battling Miss State to not to be last position wise. Hard for coaches to succeed there with 8-9+ wins every year

Arkansas had never finished last in the West before Bielema got there and was just a season removed from finishing #5 in the country. Historically have winning records over both Mississippi schools and Texas A&M in the West. That said I don’t think Bielema is a terrible coach, he lost a crap ton of close games at Arkansas and nearly beat Alabama but he started drinking too much and it spiraled out of control toward the end, Pittman leaving for Georgia was a big loss as well because he got frustrated with Bielema’s lack of focus and not taking things seriously. Contrary to popular belief it wasn’t really his offense that struggled though, he only had one good defense in 2014 and that’s what did him in. Arkansas was 2nd in the SEC in scoring in 2015 and led the league in passing in 2016 so it wasn’t really because “a Big 10 offense won’t work in the SEC”.
 
Iowa St and Matt Campbell have a different philosophy/Style of football for one. Campbell is a Midwest guy. He is a defensive coach. He plays in the Big 12. His offense and defense system is not dependable on a specific skill set. He is a pro coach which is why nfl is so hard after him. He isn’t trying to run the chip Kelly style Oregon offense in country Nebraska. He isn’t pretending he can get kids from central Florida and Deep South Ga to follow him to Nebraska consistently. Campbell can recruit any regions for his style of play especially close to home. Frost has a system that isn’t exactly kind to the local style of football player. He has to reach in other areas thus a longer timeframe needed. He couldn’t even get Milton to come to Nebraska because it was Nebraska so he got stuck with Martinez again.

Also this all could be an overreaction by everyone. Beliema is a hell of a coach and Lovie Smith left him a veteran team that returned 80 percent of its starters that best Nebraska last year. Nebraska should have never been favored. For all we know Illnois may have a solid year and end up not being such a bad loss by seasons end.
The statement he got stuck with Martinez is false, he wanted Martinez as his QB. He pushed hard to flip Martinez away from UT.
 
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