Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[SweetasSoda]

Should have been the hire.

What has he done in the SEC?

 

[Glitch]

You have done well to break it down to the communication problem and lack of clarity on expectations. Also, that’s the best approach to discuss it with him one-on-one. It will make for a better work environment moving forward for both of you.

Should pull a Rick James imo.

"Hey, Mark. What did the five fingers say to the face?"

 

[Vols4us]

My little brother is a commercial fisherman. He’s currently on his boat behind a levee in Golden Meadow.

Adding him to the prayer list although he probably knows what he's doing and to expect.

 

[Kingston Vol]

What has he done in the SEC?

Not worth getting into a coaching search debate again, we’re four days from kickoff.

I would just say I don’t think Heupel’s prior experience in the SEC is what got him this job. Comfortability with the AD pushed him over the line.

 

[Volitaire]

What kills coaches faster than anything is their reluctance to change who starts at QB. Practice warriors are great if that translates in an actual game, but if a qb can’t do it in crunch time then the pressure is simply too much for them. Good coaches recognize that and make the switch at QB before the game gets out of hand. Luckily history suggests Heupel doesn’t have a problem with sitting a QB who doesn’t perform in an actual game

 

[UpstateVol613]

Tee Hodge. Portal.

I am trying to remember when we took Tee did we miss on someone else? I vaguely remember he for sure wasn’t first choice.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Just a friendly reminder I was all in on Scott a Frost when that time came around

Just gotta keep it real

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Not worth getting into a coaching search debate again, we’re four days from kickoff.

I would just say I don’t think Heupel’s prior experience in the SEC is what got him this job. Comfortability with the AD pushed him over the line.

 

[Beagle Bill]

My little brother is a commercial fisherman. He’s currently on his boat behind a levee in Golden Meadow.

Prayers for your brother!!

 

[Vols4us]

What kills coaches faster than anything is their reluctance to change who starts at QB. Practice warriors are great if that translates in an actual game, but if a qb can’t do it in crunch time then the pressure is simply too much for them. Good coaches recognize that and make the switch at QB before the game gets out of hand. Luckily history suggests Heupel doesn’t have a problem with sitting a QB who doesn’t perform in an actual game

This ^^^

The QB position is the most important on the field. He's an extension of the HC while reading what he sees, securing the ball, and getting it in the right hands - in a few seconds on every play. If you don't have a QB that can do that on the field you don't stand a chance of winning.

So any HC who is overly loyal to one QB over competence turns the team into a loser. Any AD who allows his HC to do that tanks the program.

 

[UpstateVol613]

Just a friendly reminder I was all in on Scott a Frost when that time came around

Just gotta keep it real

Me too. I am not totally convinced the issue is all on Scott Frost though. I think he could come back and be really successful at a South Florida, UCF, Houston type school. His style of play isn’t a fit for Nebraska and the Big 10. Also Nebraska fans are living in the past. Look at the states they border and those areas are devoid of talent. Kids no longer have to go to a Nebraska type school to have a nationally televised game every week.

I am guessing Nebraska could bring back the Power I and be a perennial 8 or 9 team win every year. They seem to have talent in their geographic region to run that.

Tom Osborne days are over.

 

[Smokeytom]

I think Nebraska needs to continue with Frost. Let the man get a different QB. Unless he’s lost the team or something. You can’t do anything in CFB with a terrible QB.

 

[LA Vol]

Tee Hodge is like many who left-- they don't like it when others invest more effort and take their spot. Let's see if UK takes him because of Randall Cobb and the satisfaction of "stealing" a player away from UT. UK actively tries to poach UT players and recruits using Tennessee in-state players who're at UK, and they do it in multiple sports-- men's and women's. Most of these UK players were overlooked or not highly recruited by UT in the first place, but occasionally they get a good one. Hodge just kept falling down the depth chart.

 

[Vols4us]

I think Nebraska needs to continue with Frost. Let the man get a different QB. Unless he’s lost the team or something. You can’t do anything in CFB with a terrible QB.

I agree. It's the only real way they are going to know if he is the right guy or not. But they are going to have to make him hire better coaches as needed, which means more money.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Tee Hodge is like many who left-- they don't like it when others invest more effort and take their spot. Let's see if UK takes him because of Randall Cobb and the satisfaction of "stealing" a player away from UT. UK actively tries to poach UT players and recruits using Tennessee in-state players who're at UK, and they do it in multiple sports-- men's and women's. Most of these UK players were overlooked or not highly recruited by UT in the first place, but occasionally they get a good one. Hodge just kept falling down the depth chart.

They still mad we got Scotty Hopson or something? Jesus.

 

[RiotVol]

Adding him to the prayer list although he probably knows what he's doing and to expect.

Thank you!

He told me he’s mostly worried about someone’s boat coming loose and smacking into theirs. Just heard from him and he’s still good.

 

[volfaninpa]

They still mad we got Scotty Hopson or something? Jesus.

They mad they missed out on Chris Lofton?

 

[Volitaire]

This ^^^

The QB position is the most important on the field. He's an extension of the HC while reading what he sees, securing the ball, and getting it in the right hands - in a few seconds on every play. If you don't have a QB that can do that on the field you don't stand a chance of winning.

So any HC who is overly loyal to one QB over competence turns the team into a loser. Any AD who allows his HC to do that tanks the program.

I don’t think Kirby Smart is a great coach by any means but the way he handled his QB situation last year was really good…Dwan Mathis won the starting job in practice after Jamie Newman opted out and JT was still injured, but Dwan did pretty bad against Arkansas to start the game and they immediately went to Stetson Bennett a former walk-on halfway through and he lead them down the field multiple times.

 

[RiotVol]

I think Nebraska needs to continue with Frost. Let the man get a different QB. Unless he’s lost the team or something. You can’t do anything in CFB with a terrible QB.

They need to give him more time and admit that they f@&)ed up firing Solich, they f@&$ed fired Pellini, and they f&$) up moving to the Big 10.

It just takes time.

 

[Catbone]

I genuinely didn't know Tee was still on the team

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

This ^^^

The QB position is the most important on the field. He's an extension of the HC while reading what he sees, securing the ball, and getting it in the right hands - in a few seconds on every play. If you don't have a QB that can do that on the field you don't stand a chance of winning.

So any HC who is overly loyal to one QB over competence turns the team into a loser. Any AD who allows his HC to do that tanks the program.

Yep. Pruitt was a horrible coach, but he might still be here had he just made a change at QB during the KY game and stuck with it. Continually going back to JG turned the fans against him in a way that he could not recover from.

Frost is going to do the same thing with Martinez. He's going to let Martinez take him down and bury him

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I think Nebraska needs to continue with Frost. Let the man get a different QB. Unless he’s lost the team or something. You can’t do anything in CFB with a terrible QB.

I agree with this. Nebraska isn't going to do any better. They need to let Frost find a QB, and they need to cheat like crazy so that he can get better talent in there at the skill positions.

 

[Vols4us]

I don’t think Kirby Smart is a great coach by any means but the way he handled his QB situation last year was really good…Dwan Mathis won the starting job in practice after Jamie Newman opted out and JT was still injured, but Dwan did pretty bad against Arkansas to start the game and they immediately went to Stetson Bennett a former walk-on halfway through and he lead them down the field multiple times.

I agree. Saved their season and kept them relevant until JT was ready. Now they start the season with a proven leader/winner.

 

[drvenner]

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That's not that bad really

 

[Smokeytom]

Yep. Pruitt was a horrible coach, but he might still be here had he just made a change at QB during the KY game and stuck with it. Continually going back to JG turned the fans against him in a way that he could not recover from.

Frost is going to do the same thing with Martinez. He's going to let Martinez take him down and bury him

Yep. Pruitt 100% still here if just plays Bailey or Shrout for the rest of the year starting 2Q of KY