Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Ten_Titans]

It’s a gimmick and people are buying into it.

Boxing did it to itself. A Youtuber fighting a washed up old UFC fighter is no more of a joke than an undefeated champion fighting some guy who is 2-15 or some ****.

Crooked boxing promoters turned the sport into a gimmick well before the Paul's got to it.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

I don't agree with that. I love watching Canelo fight and there are some good heavy weights.

If you are still paying to see YouTubers fight retired atheletes, you are never going to learn. I have never heard a positive review from any of their fights.

That's fair, but fighters like Canelo seem like the minority now. The whole thing has just turned into a huge cash grab, it's not about sport anymore. McGregor and Mayweather scammed the world and now everyone is following suit. All sports outlets cover the youtuber matches as if it's real. Books are raking $ based on the public's desire to see Jake Paul and other youtubers get wrecked. All parties are just eating it up, and I can't say I blame them. MMA seems like where the real fights are now, those guys seem to take it serious.

FWIW also I would never spend a dime watching the youtubers.

 

[SweetasSoda]

 

[BigOrangeVols]

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Ray is back!!!

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

GoVols247's game-by-game predictions for Tennessee's 2021 season

 

[volbeast33]

He needs to fight some low level boxers, but the kid can box. The issue with him fighting low level boxers is the purse wouldn’t be the same…. So it’s more like he needs a few more years of training but still a big name to fight that he can still beat and get better until he gets to where he can fight real boxers.

Kids only been boxing for a little over 3 years.

He can box to an extent…..!would get wore out by a real boxer….. he picks fight that he feels he can win that will get him paid.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I watched. It was super lame. I’m not a boxing expert but I’m pretty sure it was on the very low end of number of punches thrown and landed by both parties. It was like watching two guys get their cardio in for the day.

I’ve seen people say that Jake Paul is a legit boxer but in my opinion if he fought an actual legit boxer his size and weight he’d get his ass beat.

Paul landed 72/207
Woodley landed 52/163

That's for 8 rounds, most boxers (in their weight class) throw those numbers in 2 or 3 rounds. It's a glorified tough man competition but with millions of idiots willing to pay the PPV to watch it.

 

[johnfnkelly]

Not really feeling the black heel.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Not really feeling the black heel.

I love our colors but I'm not wearing bright orange clown shoes lol.

Those just do not look good IMO.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Here's the game angle. The center was just hidden imo.

And the question about refs - one is standing by the goal post...sneaky. Another blends in with the 2 LBs and checkerboard. The other is around 16 yardline. No photoshop it appears, but a heck of a challenge even for the Where's Waldo generation.

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It didn’t look like we were on defense like the OP mentioned.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Will Milton be announced the starter at Heupel's press conference today?

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

I love our colors but I'm not wearing bright orange clown shoes lol.

Those just do not look good IMO.

Agreed. Those are just flat out atrocious.

At best I would take orange base and make it white. I would change the black heel to gray and the only orange I would have is the outline of the Nike swoosh and maybe the black lace holders orange (or gray).

 

[RikidyBones]

I love our colors but I'm not wearing bright orange clown shoes lol.

Those just do not look good IMO.

I like the grey as the prime color for shoes with orange accents.

 

[volbeast33]

Will Milton be announced the starter at Heupel's press conference today?

I was wondering if we would get a depth chart like we did the last few years….. Joe Milton or Hendon Hooker or Harrison Bailey.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I love our colors but I'm not wearing bright orange clown shoes lol.

Those just do not look good IMO.

The Pegasus are so comfortable, but when I got them in the AD I always felt so ridiculous with bright orange shoes anytime except game day. However, now I pay a stupid amount for shoes because I love the Pegasus line from Nike.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I like the grey as the prime color for shoes with orange accents.

Was about to say this myself.

 

[Jack Burton]

Well, alrighty then. If you are correct, in 4 years you can throw it in my face and I will eat crow. TL;dr version follows.

FWIW, I see each sport as a separate entity with basketball having its ultimate prize as FF/NC from March Madness. I see baseball with ultimate prize being the CWS/NC.

Barnes followed the aftermath that extended from Pearl to Tyndall, which included the NCAA breathing down their necks. Voltello followed the awful Raleigh era and the surprisingly unsuccessful Serano tenure.

Both had to be rebuilt from the ashes with cast offs and wannabes. Barnes took what he could get and developed them and the team from unusual parts that traditional programs rarely use. See Grant and Admiral as examples. Haters said - "see, he can't recruit at at a high level at UT." They are silent about that today. Voltello took a type of player that small ball Serrano recruited, who is an excellent college coach, and rebuilt the roster more appropriately to compete well against the best in the SEC, which is the best in college baseball. He developed and blended in the Serrano guys who stayed and used them where they could be used - successfully - just like Barnes. Nobody says UT cannot recruit in baseball today. They had similar money to work with as the rest of the SEC - without the tradition of the elite in the SEC. Voltello doesn't even have good facilities.

Which tells me the money involved had less to do with it in those sports. However, the money did follow the success in both sports in an effort to sustain the level they achieved and move them over the top to elite status in the future. So money appeared as success was proven.

What was once gained has been totally lost in football other than tradition. Ground zero, burned to the ground. Heup comes in to rebuild with those who stayed to fight on (hmmm, character with a bit of "KMA haters") like Barnes and Voltello. Rebuild with one of the best in the nation leading the UTAD providing full support and being that same AD's guy. Rebuild with dedicated, competent leaders in the executive offices of UT. Rebuild with a proven, up and comer HC who is highly innovative and a players coach. A guy and his staff who has beaten and been highly competitive against better competition using less talent in their backgrounds. All of the needed facilities, fan support, player support, environment along with plenty of money to get the job done while playing the tough SEC schedule to achieve top 10 status long term. That's SEC division champion level. That's when even more money follows to take the next step - which is the level basketball and baseball have just started to work to attain without having the tradition of having done so in their past.

The football brand of Tennessee does have a tradition of winning it all at times in its history. It can again, now that the ingredients for success are there. Which IMO, but not yours, can happen without something negative happening to others in the SEC. Saban is a defensive guru who is dependent on hiring OC's who can innovate. He is far closer to the end of his career than the beginning. Heup is the offensive guru who is dependent on hiring DC's who can innovate. He is far closer to the beginning of his HC career than the end. To be the best you design your program to beat the very best - Bama. Nobody else in the SEC or nation matters because if you beat Bama on a regular basis, 90+% of the time you are regularly beating everybody else like Bama is doing now. Others will rise up occasionally like Clemson, LSU, etc. - to eventually fall down. Tennessee is the one program who has consistently held its own against Bama during several extended periods of its history.

IMO that began again in 2021. Time will tell. Go Vols!

All we have to do is beat Bama? All I have to do is hit the PowerBall. The odds of beating Bama while Saban is there are about the same.

 

[All_Vol87]

Will Milton be announced the starter at Heupel's press conference today?

Highly unlikely lol but this Tennessee so

 

[VolInDayton]

Will Milton be announced the starter at Heupel's press conference today?

I think Heupel will announce it, but will make it clear that the plan is to get another QB some snaps.

 

[KPT_VFL]

Let’s goooo I’m so pumped for game week!! Thursday can’t get here soon enough!!! Half to have a REAL season again and fans in the stands!! I’ll be at the Pitt game! First game in 2 years!! GBO

 

[nicksjuzunk]

What brand of grain free food to you get from Amazon?

Met-Rx peanut butter cup protein bars

 

[Kingston Vol]

I wonder what attendance is going to look like. Thursday nighters make it tough for the working folks.

If I remember correctly, the Appalachian State game on Thursday night a few years ago had a pretty good crowd.

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

Having went through several in Florida, I will never understand people that don't/won't get out when a major hurricane is bearing down. It is sad, but it is supremely vexing at the same time...I mean you have several days to get out..

Some people can't afford to leave...you should know that Bishop
Need Help Leaving

 

[volbeast33]

I wonder what attendance is going to look like. Thursday nighters make it tough for the working folks.

If I remember correctly, the Appalachian State game on Thursday night a few years ago had a pretty good crowd.

I’m leaving work at 12 Thursday and driving in for the game….. I will be taking Friday off.

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

I like the grey as the prime color for shoes with orange accents.

I’d go with one of these over that orange base…