Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Bassmaster_Vol]

It was to make a point, that you failed to comprehend. Talk about being on brand...

I know your point. It's just an ignorant one.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I've had some and it was good. Turtle and rattlesnake are also good.

I was shocked by how tasty gator is the first time I tried it.

 

[UTProf]

Hurd played a lot of good football for UT. Gained a lot of yards. Paid a price. I am not going to split hairs.

He played a lot of good games but his stats are misleading when it comes to the all-time record. We'd been barren at the spot for ages until Hurd appeared but before that period we were stacked higher than Bama at RB. Don't act like Jamal Lewis, Little Man Stewart, Cobb and Webb and countless others never happened. They did.

 

[LoudOrange]

I've had some and it was good. Turtle and rattlesnake are also good.

I was watching one of the hunting shows and they ate mountain lion. Have never heard of that.

 

[bignewt]

Alright. I touch down in an hour. Haven’t been in Knoxville in two years. Who has the drop on the new breweries

People say that Xul is the bomb.

 

[bignewt]

I know your point. It's just an ignorant one.

You would know.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

You would know.

Good one. What's next? "I know you are but what am I?"

 

[NMVol]

He played a lot of good games but his stats are misleading when it comes to the all-time record. We'd been barren at the spot for ages until Hurd appeared but before that period we were stacked higher than Bama at RB. Don't act like Jamal Lewis, Little Man Stewart, Cobb and Webb and countless others never happened. They did.

Bro, I ain't your strawman. Find someone else.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

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All time great TV moment

 

[UTProf]

Bro, I ain't your strawman. Find someone else.

You're the one citing that all time record. If you're going to cite that then other RBs and what they did matter as well as the extenuating circumstances. A straw man otoh is an argument that I would construct for you only to tear down. Hurd did a lot here but that all-time stat is misleading.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Way to put words in my mouth. Literally all I said was Milton was brought in to be JH’s guy and no other QB proved they could not make that happen. I defended Bailey because people were making it out like he is a bad QB, when he isn’t. LA Vol literally said the same things I said without so much context. I don’t care who starts, I want to win. I also said I’m excited to see Milton play and see how he has improved. But please spin the narrative, reading comprehension would be your friend.

I’m with you an I agree. Milton brought in to take the job. Others had an opportunity to take it and could not. Heupel likes the ceiling he sees here and is rolling him out first. Not hard to see

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Nootropics have been well researched. Not sure if Lion's Mane is technically a nootropic, but it seems similar, and the sources cited in that article are for legitimate research as well.

Phenibut taken responsibly without building up a tolerance is amazing for anxiety and sleep

 

[GiggerVol]

I was shocked by how tasty gator is the first time I tried it.

I thought it was okay but nothing great.

 

[johnfnkelly]

Hurd could do one thing. Take the ball a bully his way for 3-5 yards. That was about it from a running perspective. He certainly wasn't a big play threat. He benefited from a lack of rbs and coaches that underutilized a future All Pro in Kamara.

Give other rbs in UTs past a freshman year of starting duties and Hurd wouldn't be in the top 10. Most of the good backs in the past 30 years didn't get starting carries till their sophomore/ junior year.

Cedric Wilson is one example. He had 1 less yard than Hurd but did it in 88 fewer carries. Why did he have fewer carries? Because his freshman year Travis Stephens was the starter. His sophomore/junior year he split carries with Jabari Davis. His senior year he split carries with Gerald Riggs Jr.

Hurd came at a time when we wanted to run the ball and he didn't have competition. Kamara came his sophomore year and history has proven the staff were morons for not getting Kamara the ball more.

Have you considered Cedric Wilson played in a system better suited to his skillet with a vastly superior OL? You can acknowledge Kamara was underutilized without discrediting Hurd. Dude was a dog.

 

[NMVol]

You're the one citing that all time record. If you're going to cite that then other RBs and what they did matter as well as the extenuating circumstances. A straw man otoh is an argument that I would construct for you only to tear down. Hurd did a lot here but that all-time stat is misleading.

I cited it because someone wondered why people had a favorable regard toward Hurd, then before you know you're tossing a bale of hay at me. Wish someone would have shouted duck. Pay attention!!

 

[bignewt]

Good one. What's next? "I know you are but what am I?"

Your worldview would fit on the head of a pin. Native Americans would look at you and shake their head and you wouldn't even know why. Now, I'm leaving you and your narrow ways as I look forward to tomorrow.

 

[Nashvegas31]

I don’t know why I liked his dad joke quirky azz

 

[bigorange]

Eh, at the end of the day we all want to win so we can be the most annoying fanbase in the country. This forum gives us great practice on the annoying part, LOL.

Yes it does...some certainly more than others.

 

[SweetasSoda]

I thought it was okay but nothing great.

So we're eating gators, bears, rattlesnakes and turtles this year. Could we eat an elephant or a bulldog also?

 

[TheDeeble]

I’ve not seen one poster utter that “once in a generation” strawman.

I'm not talking about this thread alone. I mean if you go back to 2015 people on this forum were trying to dub him the best rb in UT history after 2 seasons because of his yardage total. That was largely due to him just getting more carries than anyone else. Not because he did amazing things when carrying the football.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Your worldview would fit on the head of a pin. Native Americans would look at you and shake their head and you wouldn't even know why. Now, I'm leaving you and your narrow ways as I look forward to tomorrow.

"I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!" zing!

Native Americans also enjoyed the taste of bear meat.

 

[bigorange]

I once freed a black bear trapped in a dumpster. Took me a while to figure out what the racket was. Opened the dumpster hatch from the side and the bear popped out like a Jack in the Box and then ambled off stopping briefly to cast one glance back at me over its shoulder.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Your worldview would fit on the head of a pin. Native Americans would look at you and shake their head and you wouldn't even know why. Now, I'm leaving you and your narrow ways as I look forward to tomorrow.

Why should we be concerned with what Native Americans think? Are you saying their world view is bigger than the head of a pin? Not following.

 

[SweetasSoda]

I'm not talking about this thread alone. I mean if you go back to 2105 people on this forum were trying to dub him the best rb in UT history after 2 seasons because of his yardage total. That was largely due to him just getting more carries than anyone else. Not because he did amazing things when carrying the football.

Wouldn't that be forward to 2105?

 

[BigALWiLson]

I've never said he wasn't talented. But I am honest about what he was/was not great at. He's a good college back but nothing special when compared against several rbs we've had in the past. People are trying to build him up as a once in a generation type back because of what he did in his first 2 seasons. But it's largely due to 1 reason. He was given more carries than anyone but Arian Foster.

I'd bet no other rb in Tennessee history was given 467 carries in his 1st 2 seasons. Possibly any 2 seasons in their career. Maybe Jay Graham his last 2 years. Many of our rbs don't get that in a career.

Wouldn't you also agree that a big part of that was his coach Lyle ? He was used up at the rb position. 467 carries is a lot for one guy, even a big guy. Not many guys have gotten that opportunity except maybe BO and Hershal. No I am not saying he was on their level. He wasn't and thats a fact. The coaching staff at that time failed miserably. While Jalen carries some blame and specifically the way he quit. He also had others doing him no favors. I can certainly understand him wanting to protect himself from the way he was being used. The way he wrnt about it was wrong.