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We will see a big jump in performance of the team next season. Book it.

The O is set for the future and it will be 40+ PPG average. QB, RB's. WR's, TE's, O-line - all set up going forward.

We need quality D transfers for next season and 2023 while they are recruiting the HS players that fit the system/scheme they want to run.

aTm's cash machine will overpay for players as will happen at other schools. They will get about as much loyalty and effort as the dollars take them. Once somebody else pays more, they will become discontent where they are. NIL should be an enhancement, not a career path.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
This is what we need our boosters doing. Imagine if Heupel had the kind of talent A&M is bringing in this season. This is the game now. We either jump in or we're going to be even further behind.
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I'm surprised we're not (maybe we are). If me and a bunch of other RFers knew this was the game from the start (open LLCs and just fund them for NIL deals) then surely some around our booster community did as well...

The question is how coordinated the booster community is. The same OU mod said he's seen texts of a small group of OU boosters...they each put in 15k to gather 100k to put toward one big player. Not only did they not know/could agree who to offer it to (no coordination with OU staff) but they also realized 100k wasn't enough for who they even wanted...these days it takes very motivated and coordinated boosters...and the directiom from the school has to be minimal, none at best. That's tough...that's not what boosters are used to. They're used to being begged and having the red carpet rolled out.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
I still think about these two drives from the MCB:

Early in the 2nd quarter. We had just held Purdue to 3 points to stay up 21-10. Felt like if we score another TD on this drive we choke them out the same way that we did Mizzou and SCar.

We cross midfield after a long pass play. We are in their territory and in striking distance.

1st down: run for 4
2nd down: long pass for Tillman, incomplete, lead him too far. Flagged for HOLDING on Carvin.
2nd down & 22: pass to the sideline, through the hands of Fant. Would have set up 3rd and 10, but he didn't catch it.
3rd down & 22: bomb to no one
PUNT

Next Purdue drive we hold them to another 3.

Our next drive, another chance to score to put some distance in between us and them. We cross midfield AGAIN. 8:00 left.

Key moment:

It was a quick out on the perimeter to Peyton. It's a play we've scored on before, particularly against slower defenses. It would have absolutely got us the 1st down, it may have scored. HE DROPS IT.

All of that, and STILL we pick up the 1st.

Key moment:

3rd & 4 on that same drive. Velus blows by his man in the slot. Just dusts him. Hooker underthrows it to the outside, so Velus has to adjust. Even still, it was a catchable ball.
4th & 4: we get a false start
4th & 9: Hooker gets pressured outside of the pocket. Tillman streaks to the endzone on the play breakdown, but Hooker has no idea where he's going, or just throws a terrible ball, and misses the scoring opportunity.



This 2nd quarter was not unlike many other 2nd quarters we had this season. The defense was not exceptionally bad. The offense WAS moving the ball. However, greed and lack of execution cost us AT LEAST 7 points, possibly as many as 14, and that probably would have been enough to make the game ours.

If we're going to have big balls, or get addicted to big plays, that's fine. I applaud our aggression. But you better execute.
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I’m as pissed as anyone about the refs and inability / lack of clock management / lack of execution on the final regulation drive — but this ^^^^ is where we lost the MCB.
 
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The Tiger teams must suffer.

Down with Clemson.

Hopefully Better-Butch sinks LSU.

Auburn fan was over recently talking about how excited he was to get "all these top ranked JUCO guys." I said "I know, we were battling for all of those guys and lost them all to Auburn." He's a good enough guy, but I hope Auburn crashes and burns too.
 
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KB5252 said:
It's crazy for years it's been stated coach retention had been the key to Clemson's success. After the downturn this season, everyone who could bailed.
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They're about to get very dirty. Desperate boosters and/or inexperienced assistants looking to make a name are going to go balls to the wall.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I don't think you'll see Tennessee even remotely approaching what A&M is doing. Tennessee will probably go all in on 1-2 players and then much smaller NIL deals for 90% of the rest.
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I just want to see them doing something. Right now there is no evidence that we are doing anything
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
Some additional NIL information. I absolutely think there are some large numbers thrown out at recruits(not sure it is as high as rumored). I'll be very interested to see if those numbers continue, but also how they impact locker rooms.

I can with a lot of confidence say there was a pre season heisman hopeful who was getting low 6 figures total (plus some autograph deal which is an outlier cause who knows what they offer), but in real "NIL" deals with brands he as getting low 6 figures total from actual brands using him as marketing tool. One of those companies will probably never do another NIL deal because the ROI on that investment was pathetic. But that gives you an idea of what some people were earning in year 1 of NIL. If a heisman hopeful was getting low 6 figures(plus memorabilia deal), I doubt random Ole Miss RBs were getting 600k.

The biggest numbers probably were reserved for incoming recruits, but I am very curious to see how that continues with the new transfer rule. I think there'll be multiple Ewers a year. I think you'll see more mid/small level programs ponying up to get a big name (Jackson State, Mizzou, etc) but will that spread talent around, or will traditional powers just grab the next highest rated guy?
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Devo182 said:
$30MM #1 class. Wow.

TAMU did exactly what many of us said we should do - but their bigtime donors (not just us lowly RF folks) also thought of it...and actually did it.

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That OU mod is out of the loop. ATM paid more like $5 million for this class, not $30 million. From everything I've seen Nolen and Stewart likely weren't paid more than $500k each, so there is no way they paid over $1 million for everyone they signed. And NIL has nothing to do with it, this was the old fashioned bag game, where they just paid a premium over market rate that teams like Bama or UGA were offering.

Also, someone has probably already posted this by Caleb Williams is apparently going to leave OU and the likely destination is UGA.
 
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I’m sorry, but I hate this NIL. It was ridiculous what AL, GA and a few others were paying. And you can see the results. Now it’s just going to get beyond ridiculous, and that’s all anyone is going to talk about with it being in the open. And can you imagine crazy fans when the players do not perform up to expectations after what they are being paid?
 
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