Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[ACvol3]

IMHO, all the above plus touchdowns from Hendo with addition of Neyor !

65 pass attempts in a game might be a little tough

 

[chargervol]

Question for anyone who is good at player evaluation.

Does Squirrel our WR recruit have the type of breakaway speed we've seen from a few of those Bama receivers? The kind of speed that given just a sliver of light they are gone?

Seems Bama has at least one every year, would really like to have one here..

I was furious watching Bama run up the score on us, in Neyland, doing nothing but telling Cooper to "go long".
Our defense couldn't find a proper angle with a protractor and even if they did, Cooper, somehow, always had yet another gear.

So fed up, was ready to offer Tonya Harding, MVP.

 

[thomaseusin]

Oil money dries up when oil prices start dipping or when 8-4 continues. I like the path our business development plan is headed:

* Refresh our iconic stadium with a fan focus
* Update and modernize our athletic facilities (the plans look really good if you have not seen the fly through)
* Recruit the right type of players to build a winning culture (which happens to be Top 15!)
* Keep a coaching staff focused on said player development
* Support the top 4 rated AD in the country

Feels like the pros have arrived and running the show. Can’t wait to see what 2022 has in store. GBO!

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Mitchell, Banks and Beasley are, lets pray we can develop the other guys though

Beasley played pretty average and Mitchell showed nothing. We have one proven linebacker right now.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

LB room right now without moving anyone around and with incoming freshmen.

OLB/DL
Byron Young - 6'3" 235
Tyler Baron - 6'5" 260
Roman Harrison - 6'2" 240
James Pearce - 6'5" 220
Joshua Josephs - 6'3" 215

ILB
Juwan Mitchell - 6'1" 226
Kwauze Garland - 6'1" 220
William Mohan - 6'1" 210
Bryson Eason - 6'3" 290
Aaron Beasley - 6'1" 225
Jeremy Banks - 6'1" 224
Solon Page III - 6'2" 223
Aaron Willis - 6'1" 225
Elijah Herring - 6'3" 230
Kalib Perry - 6'4" 215

Incoming guys all have great size and speed, I really like what we got here. Think Pearce/Josephs both can have early impacts and by year 3 I think Herring or Perry both could be big time contributors. Our success IMO with this group next season comes down to how good are Willis, Mohan, Eason (should be able to RS this year). Mitchell/Page both were seniors but I think both can return.

 

[BubbaWms]

65 pass attempts in a game might be a little tough

If I had to crawfish on one, that would be my choice, given he had 41 against Purdue but avg 24 in other 11 games !

 

[SmokinBob]

It's crazy, but hats off for playing. There are a lot of teams who would opt out under much better circumstances. . . jmo, not worth 2 cents, but maybe a Penny.

I agree - we both get a penny so that’s two cents worth!

 

[MoCo_Vol]

65 pass attempts in a game might be a little tough

Don't think a Heupel QB has gone over 500 attempts either.

So any of the Yards/TDs records I think could be broken sure, but his system isn't as volume driven like a Leach style Air Raid so really doubt the two attempts records are touched and completions will be tough as well.

 

[BigSteve09]

When do they review rules and what needs to change going into next year?

We are at least 1 win better next year if they fix the fake injuries.

 

[sneakergawd]

LB room right now without moving anyone around and with incoming freshmen.

OLB/DL
Byron Young - 6'3" 235
Tyler Baron - 6'5" 260
Roman Harrison - 6'2" 240
James Pearce - 6'5" 220
Joshua Josephs - 6'3" 215

ILB
Juwan Mitchell - 6'1" 226
Kwauze Garland - 6'1" 220
William Mohan - 6'1" 210
Bryson Eason - 6'3" 290
Aaron Beasley - 6'1" 225
Jeremy Banks - 6'1" 224
Solon Page III - 6'2" 223
Aaron Willis - 6'1" 225
Elijah Herring - 6'3" 230
Kalib Perry - 6'4" 215

Incoming guys all have great size and speed, I really like what we got here. Think Pearce/Josephs both can have early impacts and by year 3 I think Herring or Perry both could be big time contributors. Our success IMO with this group next season comes down to how good are Willis, Mohan, Eason (should be able to RS this year). Mitchell/Page both were seniors but I think both can return.

Eason isn’t playing LB. He’s a DE.

 

[Jimmy Football]

But are they good?

Yeah, I think we need at least one linebacker. Maybe they are looking for a hybrid type as one of their DB transfers?

 

[mrmax86]

Re: TAM shelling out major $ to the ‘22 class…
I have always wondered what that creates as far as the locker room dynamic for the team as a whole.

If I’m 3* LB from two classes ago who has worked his ass off grinding in the program for a couple years to get a chance to play and never got anything other than the scholarship, is there resentment to these new highly-paid and unproven “kids”?
Is there pressure from a coach to play these kids who have arrived on campus with a million bucks in their pocket and expectations of immediate contribution?
What about the other 50-60 players on the team who are not super compensated? Do they keep exerting themselves fully to achieve team results?

I see this whole scenario as teeming with opportunities for chaos and division within a team. I don’t care how many super 5*s you have on a team, if they’re not pulling in the same direction, you’re not going to win week in and week out in an unforgiving environment like the SEC.

* I could be absolutely wrong on this assessment. Just thinking about the whole NIL scenario that everyone is salivating and fretting about from the dynamic of how it affects teenagers/young men personally, and on a team level.

Yes, this. Pretty much all of this. Teams that run themselves like this will be stuck in a huge transfer loop every year. I think us easing into it will bode well for us in the long run. I think Heup's team culture is very good and we've had relatively few transfers because of it.

 

[Devo182]

Finished 25th in the FPI in Y1...which is also 2nd out of the East teams.

Feels good man

 

[Ron Swanson]

 

[LoudOrange]

Wasn't he pretty bad at South Carolina?

 

[swchandler1988]

Beasley played pretty average and Mitchell showed nothing. We have one proven linebacker right now.

Well Mitchell played 2 games and was already dealing with that shoulder injury going into the season

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Well Mitchell played 2 games and was already dealing with that shoulder injury going into the season

Still doesn’t disprove what I said. We have one PROVEN SEC LB right now. Doesn’t mean some couldn’t become good Lbs, but so far only one has shown to be.

 

[HankHill]

The thing about those kind of dinosaur offenses, they only work in today’s game if you can out-talent your opponents across the board.

I don’t believe that. Michigan made a playoff doing a lot of the same things. Oklahoma is a big heavy personnel package team thats had a lot of success. Bama vs cinci was featuring 2 TEs. Football is cyclical.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Eason isn’t playing LB. He’s a DE.

Just going by this.

2021 Football Roster - University of Tennessee Athletics

 

[Devo182]

I agree with everything you said, and I also believe that it will work out as well. Those elite guys that do hit are a dime a dozen, getting large amounts on campus is the best way to find them. Those who dont will still be servicable players. I agree about the farm team stuff as well. Plowmans press conference concerned me, and LA basically confirmed what I already knew, TN doesnt give two ***** about winning anything important. As a fan it may be time to take a step back, if the school doesnt care why should we?

The complete flipside of this is - the university has zero control over private NiL deals. It has been and will be up to the boosters. If we ever get some that are wanting to win big (and maybe a 9-10 win season will jumpstart that) then the tide could change.

To act like there aren't GOOD, grounded kids in the top 100 is pure BS. So, we can definitely fulfill our culture prerequisite while getting top talent.

It still comes back to boosters - not just the university.

 

[HankHill]

Hey man. Can you get your boy Aranda to give a few clinics at UT. That Baylor defense was filthy. Their team tackles so physical and well overall.

Couldn’t be more different from a structure and philosophy stand point lol.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I don’t believe that. Michigan made a playoff doing a lot of the same things. Oklahoma is a big heavy personnel package team thats had a lot of success. Bama vs cinci was featuring 2 TEs. Football is cyclical.

I just had this conversation with someone today. Teams adjusted to the spread by recruiting smaller and quicker ok defenses and now offenses are going bigger again. There's no perfect answer just what are you willing to give up.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

The complete flipside of this is - the university has zero control over private NiL deals. It has been and will be up to the boosters. If we ever get some that are wanting to win big (and maybe a 9-10 win season will jumpstart that) then the tide could change.

To act like there aren't GOOD, grounded kids in the top 100 is pure BS. So, we can definitely fulfill our culture prerequisite while getting top talent.

It still comes back to boosters - not just the university.

This I won't argue with. There's not a lot the AA can do about boosters, but if a school directly gets caught that's another issue

 

[HankHill]

I just had this conversation with someone today. Teams adjusted to the spread by recruiting smaller and quicker ok defenses and now offenses are going bigger again. There's no perfect answer just what are you willing to give up.

That’s right. If you watch Oklahoma vs Florida bowl game from a couple years ago that’s a perfect example. They gashed Florida with their counter run scheme using big bodies.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I don’t believe that. Michigan made a playoff doing a lot of the same things. Oklahoma is a big heavy personnel package team thats had a lot of success. Bama vs cinci was featuring 2 TEs. Football is cyclical.

But who have Michigan or Oklahoma really beaten that they didn't out talent? Cause against those teams that have clear talent advantages those big heavy personnel package teams haven't had great success.