Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[hjeagle1vol]

So good.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

So good.

Need more of these from past players who were offered boatloads of cash and went somewhere else. Burn Bama down!

 

[Orange_Crush]

College football world blasts Nick Saban for latest NIL comments (msn.com)

Great story.

I believe Bama has been cheating and Saban is fighting to keep that competitive advantage.

However, I believe it worth noting the distinction in his comments. He didn't say, "We paid 3 mil to our players"... and then say "They're buying players and we're not." He said that he supports NIL, encourages the players to get agents and get paid, while the school and coaches stay out of it, as opposed to booster collectives that are part of the recruiting process and have the coaches budgeting the $$$. He's claiming that bama players made $3 mil and the school had no part in it while other schools were actively paying players through NIL collectives.

 

[VOLSONLY]

College football world blasts Nick Saban for latest NIL comments (msn.com)

 

[jpope9]

I look forward to the mid season retiring citing health issues.

 

[Vols4us]

All I have to say to Saban is, "Aflac." He can always go pitch insurance when the Bammers turn on him as the losses mount up. What goes around, comes around.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Saban had under table money down to a T without getting caught! He’s just super butt hurt now the playing fields have been leveled!
End of story!

 

[butchna]

Wasn't one of the hang-ups with Cut that Hamilton wanted a say on the assistants he brought with him and Cut wasn't having it?

Mostly. There were some assistants that Hamilton didn’t want to pay buyouts. I don’t think any of them were retained after Dooley took the job.

 

[Nashvegas31]

I see Saban set world on fire last night. Straight up calling out people directly

 

[Vols4us]

Lil Satan likes his hefty paycheck too much to leave right away. He's after two things IMO. First, try to throw a monkey wrench into the process with the remaining good ole boys who will go along to gain some time. Second, he's building his excuse for starting to lose. After it all slides down enough, he will ride out with a parting gift and hit the sports talk show circuit to feed his ego. Probably do an analyst role in the studio.

The legal horse has left the barn along with other P5 programs helping it to get out. They don't want the current elites to control it all anymore than we do. Why do you think you even see Gene Smith at OSU embracing it? Embrace it or decline - he knows. Any patchwork the good ole boys try will get blown up.

Which is why I posted right after it happened that NIL combined with the transfer portal changed everything. The highest court spoke, it's over. Attempted end runs will not work. It's all professional from this point on for revenue producing sports. The paradigm shift was kicked off way back when the Olympics allowed professional athletes to compete. It was just a matter of time as the interest and money grew that it would hit collegiate athletics.

Eventually there will be a players union and their own version of free agency among other things. Embrace it or find something else to do with your time.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

I'm hoping for a Jimbo response to Saban. Watching those two snipe at each other through the media could be fun. Especially if Jimbo has any dirty laundry on Saban he can air.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

The comparison to the bootleggers that were upset when prohibition ended is spot on. NIL has completely messed up the Saban business model (which Kirby also uses) and he sees the playing field leveling out.

That's what gets me about folks saying that UT has to pay players like Nico to come. He was going to get paid if he went to Alabama or UGA. NIL has simply leveled the playing field and Spyre was ready for it.

I think Saban is painting himself in a corner and there's going to be a lot of negative consequences for him. He's definitely making it harder for Alabama to have a successful NIL collective because they'll be directly at odds with his comments. You're also going to have some folks who will be more than happy to air the dirty laundry on his program when it comes to paying players.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

I still think it's weird that guys like Saban and Jimbo are so defensive about whether or not they pay for players (even though it's legal now). Old habits die hard but damn man, you sound insanely out of touch.

I hope he keeps talking about it and keeps showing recruits that he doesn’t want them to get paid to their potential. It’s a new CFB world and if some of these teams fighting it aren’t careful they may just get left behind.

 

[butchna]

The comparison to the bootleggers that were upset when prohibition ended is spot on. NIL has completely messed up the Saban business model (which Kirby also uses) and he sees the playing field leveling out.

That's what gets me about folks saying that UT has to pay players like Nico to come. He was going to get paid if he went to Alabama or UGA. NIL has simply leveled the playing field and Spyre was ready for it.

I think Saban is painting himself in a corner and there's going to be a lot of negative consequences for him. He's definitely making it harder for Alabama to have a successful NIL collective because they'll be directly at odds with his comments. You're also going to have some folks who will be more than happy to air the dirty laundry on his program when it comes to paying players.

And with the old bag system, Saban could lightly recruit a Nico while going full bore for Arch. Now both are gone for him and he’s down to hoping Eli Holstein doesn’t like to profit from his likeness.

 

[bigorange]

NSIAP

 

[bigorange]

I'm hoping for a Jimbo response to Saban. Watching those two snipe at each other through the media could be fun. Especially if Jimbo has any dirty laundry on Saban he can air.

 

[tnhunter 10]

 

[bignewt]

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[CABVOL]

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[drvenner]

As a result even people who bought the media lie all these years are starting to realize that saban cheated his way through every single game at bammer. The undeniable result is that there is no actual evidence that he can win on a level playing field. And he clearly doesn't think he can. Saban's "stolen valor" as a "genius" is exposed. He's just a privileged crook who benefitted from a double standard. That's why he couldn't win in the NFL -- he had to obey the same rules as every other team. He can't do it at bammer, either.

He is a great coach. But, the cheating has been rampant. He still would have won a lot, but not nearly as much, IMO.

 

[Orange_Crush]

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Coach Neon coming out with the race card right from the blocks. lol

"NCAA looks at us, I'll have Al Sharpton on you like.. well.. 'white on rice'".

 

[drvenner]

I’m a doubter of the Whittingham conspiracy…he would’ve been an epic program changer tho in my thinking. I know the Interim Kippy is a popular revisionist program savior but I doubt Hamilton wouldn’t chosen anybody better a season later and have no faith that Kippy would’ve salvaged that 2010 class. Acceptable if the next hire is a homerun…resubmit negative prediction. We took a beating top to bottom because the whole root was rotten. That wasn’t going to change with just a HC.

Yep, he very well could have gone after someone like Schiano.

 

[drvenner]

For Nick Saban.

 

[VolInDayton]

Saban was bragging about how much Bryce Young's NIL deal was worth before he played a snap, but then wants to act like NIL isn't part of Bama recruiting.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Saban is going to catch a lot of heat for this. It’s going to shine a light on that program.

He doesn’t know it yet but he will soon. He just ended his career and the Bama dominance.

Also, what do you think Pruitt tried to model here???