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Wait, I want to say one more thing. You say, basically, that big donors want to see their name on a building and they want a tax shelter. This argument wants to keep it "real." You don't do it on purpose, I suppose, but don't you see how petty you make these great donors seem? This kind of talk introduces a tremendous distortion into things by the small-minded way it conceives of them.

Have you ever been on a campus with a student when a sudden mixture of slight embarrassment or humility and beaming pride comes over her face, and she says "That building is named for my grandfather"? Or in a special collections portion of a library and he says, "My grandfather started this collection"? I don't want to enter into the analysis here, but this is a form of immortality, just like children are. You need to see it from the perspective of the donor, not from below, and to see it in light of human insufficiency and striving.
Now exactly the same thing happens with athletics donations. All the way from huge donors to season ticket holders.

We need to make a way for that to happen within Spyre. First, we need to because we are short of time, and it takes time to build out a small donor base as SoilVol has pointed out: the season should be great for expanding the base. But, I maintain, that we also need those big donors as shining lights that small donors can emulate. Whatever is respected is imitated. Have you ever been at, say, a picnic, and a very prominent person is there, and instead of acting better than, she or he mingles and eats a piece of fried chicken or whatnot leaning over a garbage can to drop the bones and drinks a cheap beer people with everyone and swaps a joke. Do you know how much people respect that? And they will tell that story 100 times, about how so-and-so really is. Granted, in part because to them the story is about them "knowing" so-and-so; but let's not be petty here, either. They are praising.

I am saying we need to figure out ways to do such things inside Spyre. Small spyre donors will derive prestige from it if they are doing something that the big dogs themselves do, and it will spread. That is my notion. Now the big money guy who was at the school or church picnic or whatever it was (the fame doesn't have to be international fame) could have instead skipped the dumb local barbecue and scheduled a tax deductible meeting in the Bahamas. And they still will do that, of course. But they became a part of to support the local cause and to provide an example. And also to win goodwill. Now imagine that a large donor somehow could say (this is off the cuff): "I am a member because I love the Vols and I will match the next 100 donations at the xyz level." His or her name would be on everyone lips. And several multiples of 100 would come in. (This is only a random example.) But find ways to make Spyre seem like being a part of something that even the bigs think is great.

I don't know if you remember the old Groucho Marx joke about not wanting to be in any club that would accept him as a member?! That was hilarious and astute. You don't want it to be a second class designation for the little people with no tax sophistication. Graucho wanted to be in the big club that he couldn't be considered for. Well, we can make something like that happen for Graucho. It's not only athletes who represent the Vols. If you go to an event to meet a player and a big donor drops by alongside the $100/month and $5/month people, I would bet the people would be talking about that to everyone they know. All it takes is one person to say, omg do you know who that is?! They would probably talk about the player too. This is not about denigrating big donors. To the contrary, my friend.
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Wait, I want to say one more thing. You say, basically, that big donors want to see their name on a building and they want a tax shelter. This argument wants to keep it "real." You don't do it on purpose, I suppose, but don't you see how petty you make these great donors seem? This kind of talk introduces a tremendous distortion into things by the small-minded way it conceives of them.

Have you ever been on a campus with a student when a sudden mixture of slight embarrassment or humility and beaming pride comes over her face, and she says "That building is named for my grandfather"? Or in a special collections portion of a library and he says, "My grandfather started this collection"? I don't want to enter into the analysis here, but this is a form of immortality, just like children are. You need to see it from the perspective of the donor, not from below, and to see it in light of human insufficiency and striving.
Now exactly the same thing happens with athletics donations. All the way from huge donors to season ticket holders.

We need to make a way for that to happen within Spyre. First, we need to because we are short of time, and it takes time to build out a small donor base as SoilVol has pointed out: the season should be great for expanding the base. But, I maintain, that we also need those big donors as shining lights that small donors can emulate. Whatever is respected is imitated. Have you ever been at, say, a picnic, and a very prominent person is there, and instead of acting better than, she or he mingles and eats a piece of fried chicken or whatnot leaning over a garbage can to drop the bones and drinks a cheap beer people with everyone and swaps a joke. Do you know how much people respect that? And they will tell that story 100 times, about how so-and-so really is. Granted, in part because to them the story is about them "knowing" so-and-so; but let's not be petty here, either. They are praising.

I am saying we need to figure out ways to do such things inside Spyre. Small spyre donors will derive prestige from it if they are doing something that the big dogs themselves do, and it will spread. That is my notion. Now the big money guy who was at the school or church picnic or whatever it was (the fame doesn't have to be international fame) could have instead skipped the dumb local barbecue and scheduled a tax deductible meeting in the Bahamas. And they still will do that, of course. But they became a part of to support the local cause and to provide an example. And also to win goodwill. Now imagine that a large donor somehow could say (this is off the cuff): "I am a member because I love the Vols and I will match the next 100 donations at the xyz level." His or her name would be on everyone lips. And several multiples of 100 would come in. (This is only a random example.) But find ways to make Spyre seem like being a part of something that even the bigs think is great.

I don't know if you remember the old Groucho Marx joke about not wanting to be in any club that would accept him as a member?! That was hilarious and astute. You don't want it to be a second class designation for the little people with no tax sophistication. Graucho wanted to be in the big club that he couldn't be considered for. Well, we can make something like that happen for Graucho. It's not only athletes who represent the Vols. If you go to an event to meet a player and a big donor drops by alongside the $100/month and $5/month people, I would bet the people would be talking about that to everyone they know. All it takes is one person to say, omg do you know who that is?! They would probably talk about the player too. This is not about denigrating big donors. To the contrary, my friend.

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I remember watching that 2007 Kentucky game. It was my senior year in college and all I wanted was to see the Vols in the title game. We had a 24-7 lead at one point but had to win in 4 overtimes. A classic. Got so close against LSU, too... that was an up or down season to be sure.


07 Vols was the luckiest team in my memory. A few lucky bounces against Kentucky, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt. Then all the lucky breaks were cashed in by 08.
 
If Heupel averages 7-8 wins a year his first five years then that's good enough. That would be leaving us in a much better state than Kiffin, Dooley, Butch and Pruitt. That would be solid. With a foundation good enough for a great coach to come in and take us to the next level.

Good thing Heupel will make everyone forget about these conversations after this year when we go 10-2 🤷‍♂️
 
Just watched a preview for the documentary "free solo". It's apparently about this dude that climbs el Capitan with no ropes in under 4hrs.
Lol..you just now getting around to watching Free Solo? Alex Honnald is a freak of nature.

Watching that will give you the major heebie-jeebies. I've watched it twice, and it had the same effect on me both times.
 
Just watched a preview for the documentary "free solo". It's apparently about this dude that climbs el Capitan with no ropes in under 4hrs.



Was just about to post this. Most ambitious/insane thing I've ever seen. Guy had balls....which were probably up in his throat during most of the climb. The conditioning both physically and mentally to do this have to be off the charts. Just the strength in his fingers and hands is mind blowing.
 
We need more targets for the current class. I expect more will pop up with the HS football season as players get reevaluated, but we still have a lot of holes to fill on this roster. Plus I'm just ready for some new names to talk about.

That Whining kid just popped up on our radar. Sounds like we could have a realistic chance with him.
 
Wait, I want to say one more thing. You say, basically, that big donors want to see their name on a building and they want a tax shelter. This argument wants to keep it "real." You don't do it on purpose, I suppose, but don't you see how petty you make these great donors seem? This kind of talk introduces a tremendous distortion into things by the small-minded way it conceives of them.

Have you ever been on a campus with a student when a sudden mixture of slight embarrassment or humility and beaming pride comes over her face, and she says "That building is named for my grandfather"? Or in a special collections portion of a library and he says, "My grandfather started this collection"? I don't want to enter into the analysis here, but this is a form of immortality, just like children are. You need to see it from the perspective of the donor, not from below, and to see it in light of human insufficiency and striving.
Now exactly the same thing happens with athletics donations. All the way from huge donors to season ticket holders.

We need to make a way for that to happen within Spyre. First, we need to because we are short of time, and it takes time to build out a small donor base as SoilVol has pointed out: the season should be great for expanding the base. But, I maintain, that we also need those big donors as shining lights that small donors can emulate. Whatever is respected is imitated. Have you ever been at, say, a picnic, and a very prominent person is there, and instead of acting better than, she or he mingles and eats a piece of fried chicken or whatnot leaning over a garbage can to drop the bones and drinks a cheap beer people with everyone and swaps a joke. Do you know how much people respect that? And they will tell that story 100 times, about how so-and-so really is. Granted, in part because to them the story is about them "knowing" so-and-so; but let's not be petty here, either. They are praising.

I am saying we need to figure out ways to do such things inside Spyre. Small spyre donors will derive prestige from it if they are doing something that the big dogs themselves do, and it will spread. That is my notion. Now the big money guy who was at the school or church picnic or whatever it was (the fame doesn't have to be international fame) could have instead skipped the dumb local barbecue and scheduled a tax deductible meeting in the Bahamas. And they still will do that, of course. But they became a part of to support the local cause and to provide an example. And also to win goodwill. Now imagine that a large donor somehow could say (this is off the cuff): "I am a member because I love the Vols and I will match the next 100 donations at the xyz level." His or her name would be on everyone lips. And several multiples of 100 would come in. (This is only a random example.) But find ways to make Spyre seem like being a part of something that even the bigs think is great.

I don't know if you remember the old Groucho Marx joke about not wanting to be in any club that would accept him as a member?! That was hilarious and astute. You don't want it to be a second class designation for the little people with no tax sophistication. Graucho wanted to be in the big club that he couldn't be considered for. Well, we can make something like that happen for Graucho. It's not only athletes who represent the Vols. If you go to an event to meet a player and a big donor drops by alongside the $100/month and $5/month people, I would bet the people would be talking about that to everyone they know. All it takes is one person to say, omg do you know who that is?! They would probably talk about the player too. This is not about denigrating big donors. To the contrary, my friend.

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