Recruiting Forum Football Talk LVIII

[VolsDoc81TX]

Lost my little brother in a kayaking accident. Could use some prayers.

Prayers sent and y’all will be included nightly.
So sorry for your loss.

 

[TechnoVol]

East coast tour starting may 23. Lego

Sorry... I missed it. What band? Good job Cat! :rock:

 

[drvenner]

Have you all discussed the VT scandal?

Barstool SportsVirginia Tech Defensive Coordinator Resigns After Twitter User "Diggy1973" Exposes Him For Using Recruiting Trips To Have Sex With His Wife

Not the best look for Diggy, either.

 

[butchna]

I don't recall seeing any definitions around here to change. But since you asked, I would define a bust to be a highly rated recruit that doesn't pan out. Doesn't matter the reason. He didn't pan out for us.

He had opportunity but didn't do enough, got behind Peyton, who then took the reins and never let go. Stewart was a highly rated recruit who left after a year and never produced at UT. How is that any different than Helton or Colquitt never doing much for us? They all had their reasons for not producing much of anything in a game for UT. Shucks, even Ainge would've been a bust had he left in 2005, but he redeemed himself much like Crompton did.

Again, like I said, he's worth a mention.

No he’s not. And neither Colquitt or Helton were busts. So your argument collapses into itself. You can’t BUST out if you’ve never been dealt in. Ainge would’ve been a bust BECAUSE he had opportunity to play and couldn’t cut the mustard...same as Crompton. Neither Stewart, Colquitt or Helton fit that scenario. There was just somebody better than them on the roster.

 

[BigOrange15]

Not the best look for Diggy, either.

Because he kept pushing the issue until action was taken?

 

[drvenner]

Because he kept pushing the issue until action was taken?

No, because he announced to the world his wife was unfaithful. But, he's anonymous, so there's that.

 

[butchna]

No, because he announced to the world his wife was unfaithful. But, he's anonymous, so there's that.

I’m sure he weighed the pros and cons of exposing his dirty whore wife on the internet.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Hard to say what anyone would do in reaction to hearing their wife was having an affair with some hotshot football coach.. Twitter looked desperate for sure, but I dunno, the coach lost his job (and probably has some tending to his own family to do).

There's really no winning here, just assurance of mutual destruction.

 

[BigOrange15]

No, because he announced to the world his wife was unfaithful. But, he's anonymous, so there's that.

I mean...if you make that bed, I feel like you kind of deserve to sleep in it tbh

 

[drvenner]

Hard to say what anyone would do in reaction to hearing their wife was having an affair with some hotshot football coach.. Twitter looked desperate for sure, but I dunno, the coach lost his job (and probably has some tending to his own family to do).

There's really no winning here, just assurance of mutual destruction.

That is true. There's a stigma for everyone involved. I feel bad for all the children. They are the ones who will be hurt the most.

 

[UTProf]

Have you all discussed the VT scandal?

Barstool SportsVirginia Tech Defensive Coordinator Resigns After Twitter User "Diggy1973" Exposes Him For Using Recruiting Trips To Have Sex With His Wife

I mean the affair is obviously wrong but putting it out there on twitter is only going to hurt the kids. Twitter/the internet is forever and while those kids may be 3 and 7 years old, you can bet the 7 year old is about to hear all about it at school because the parents of every kid at his school are talking about it. And very soon his kids will see it for themselves on twitter.

It's obvious that the affair hurt him deeply (this man obviously loved his wife) but he should've went to the AD and allowed the man to resign quietly. Not for Galen Scott's sake or his wife's sake but the sake of his own kids.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

I mean the affair is obviously wrong but putting it out there on twitter is only going to hurt the kids. Twitter/the internet is forever and while those kids may be 3 and 7 years old, you can bet the 7 year old is about to hear all about it at school because the parents of every kid at his school are talking about it. And very soon his kids will see it for themselves on twitter.

It's obvious that the affair hurt him deeply (this man obviously loved his wife) but he should've went to the AD and allowed the man to resign quietly. Not for Galen Scott's sake or his wife's sake but the sake of his own kids.

There are definitely things that responsible newly-single parents should not do or allow.

Fight in front of the kids.

Use the kids as bargaining chips in said fights (or anytime else).

Allow the kids' grandparents to speak poorly of the removed parent.

At least this is "anonymous" and no names are mentioned, not that it guarantees anonymity throughout the rest of the break up process. The guy got the coach fired, now time to delete social media, lawyer up, and hit the gym.

 

[UTProf]

There are definitely things that responsible newly-single parents should not do or allow.

Fight in front of the kids.

Use the kids as bargaining chips in said fights (or anytime else).

Allow the kids' grandparents to speak poorly of the removed parent.

At least this is "anonymous" and no names are mentioned, not that it guarantees anonymity throughout the rest of the break up process. The guy got the coach fired, now time to delete social media, lawyer up, and hit the gym.

The problem is that it's a National story now. Even if we don't know who he is everyone in his life does and it will follow him and his children wherever they go.

It would be different if he managed this anonymously but when things are this high profile you don't stay anonymous even if you manage to stay anonymous to the nation your little patch of the world will know and that's what matters for the kids.

Otherwise, I completely agree with your advice/post on how parents ought to behave.

 

[Sleegro]

Tennessee basketball gets commitment from graduate-transfer guard

 

[ChismsHeadband]

The problem is that it's a National story now. Even if we don't know who he is everyone in his life does and it will follow him and his children wherever they go.

It would be different if he managed this anonymously but when things are this high profile you don't stay anonymous even if you manage to stay anonymous to the nation your little patch of the world will know and that's what matters for the kids.

Otherwise, I completely agree with your advice/post on how parents ought to behave.

Lol yeah, I'd expect most people to have the decency not to resort to social media to begin with, but I was primarily coming from a "welp the damage is done" standpoint.

To be honest, infidelity makes my stomach queasy from the get-go. It's never dignified and always terrible.

 

[Vols4us]

Tennessee basketball gets commitment from graduate-transfer guard

Needed in the worst way to make a deep run next season.

 

[Bigworm87]

I’m sure he weighed the pros and cons of exposing his dirty whore wife on the internet.

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[UTProf]

Lol yeah, I'd expect most people to have the decency not to resort to social media to begin with, but I was primarily coming from a "welp the damage is done" standpoint.

To be honest, infidelity makes my stomach queasy from the get-go. It's never dignified and always terrible.

Fair enough. It's a shame that people don't have the courage to tell one another that something is wrong in their relationships or that they've fallen for someone else. If we did a lot of relationships might be salvaged/fixed once the initial screaming and crying died down.

Matters of the heart are damned difficult things tho. I don't envy anyone going through issues there and even though I'd advise that this father never put his dirty laundry out there because his kids matter more, I do understand the place he's coming from. Betrayal always hurts.

 

[Brillovol]

No he’s not. And neither Colquitt or Helton were busts. So your argument collapses into itself. You can’t BUST out if you’ve never been dealt in. Ainge would’ve been a bust BECAUSE he had opportunity to play and couldn’t cut the mustard...same as Crompton. Neither Stewart, Colquitt or Helton fit that scenario. There was just somebody better than them on the roster.

Your memory deceives you. Both Colquitt and Helton started games at UT.

So was Bryce Brown a bust? Yes or no.

 

[85SugarVol]

Bust is when you have the path/opportunity to play and contribute and can’t meet the challenge. Can’t change the definition to just meet your narrative.

That and the fact he went on to have a pretty successful career at A&M.

Couldn’t beat out Peyton. Had a career in College Station.

How is that a bust :dunno:

 

[butchna]

Your memory deceives you. Both Colquitt and Helton started games at UT.

So was Bryce Brown a bust? Yes or no.

I remembered. Do you remember Heath Shuler? Bryce Brown wasn’t a bust for what he did at Tennessee. He was a bust for transferring when he had no Montario Hardesty coming back to keep him from starting...and running backs are different anyway. Felix Jones wasn’t a bust because he got his yards as a backup.

 

[butchna]

That and the fact he went on to have a pretty successful career at A&M.

Couldn’t beat out Peyton. Had a career in College Station.

How is that a bust :dunno:

He’s saying he’s a bust because he was highly rated and couldn’t best an even more highly rated player. Feel the need to explain his position so everyone else can grasp how wrong he is.

 

[Brillovol]

I remembered. Do you remember Heath Shuler? Bryce Brown wasn’t a bust for what he did at Tennessee. He was a bust for transferring when he had no Montario Hardesty coming back to keep him from starting...and running backs are different anyway. Felix Jones wasn’t a bust because he got his yards as a backup.

Simple answer. Was Bryce Brown a bust or not? Yes or no.

 

[butchna]

Simple answer. Was Bryce Brown a bust or not? Yes or no.

I explained it. For production no. I consider him a bust because he transferred when he could have STARRED for us. Nowhere near as “simple” as Stewart transferring because a better QB was on the roster.

 

[volatil]

Eric Locke and his daddy Juicy





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