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[HankHill]

Let’s not be fooled. Much like auburn had Newton, Dabo had Watson. The only areas they were elite outside of QB was DL. They recruited and coached great on DL. Solid at WR as well but they’ve always done well there.

In all honesty tho. QB and pass rush are the 2 most important parts of a team. If you are great in those 2 you’re going to win a lot of games.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Let’s not be fooled. Much like auburn had Newton, Dabo had Watson. The only areas they were elite outside of QB was DL. They recruited and coached great on DL. Solid at WR as well but they’ve always done well there.

Didn’t have Watson last year and still went to the playoff

 

[Dooby15]

In all honesty tho. QB and pass rush are the 2 most important parts of a team. If you are great in those 2 you’re going to win a lot of games.

This and stopping the run.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Let’s not be fooled. Much like auburn had Newton, Dabo had Watson. The only areas they were elite outside of QB was DL. They recruited and coached great on DL. Solid at WR as well but they’ve always done well there.

I know we hate the idea of relinquishing our WRU tag, but Clemson has also had pretty elite talent at WR and RB over the years..

DeAndre Hopkins, Sammy Watkins, Martavius Bryant, Mike Williams.. Tavien Feaster and Travis Ettiene currently, and Wayne Gallman for three years before them.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

I think Shurmer could be like 2nd or 3rd rounder next year. He has all the tools.

I won't argue against that. My anti-Vandy bias is why I ranked him so low. National media mentioned him hand-in-hand with Lock in 2015 and 2016. The only reason Shurmur doesn't have the halfhearted Heisman campaign that Lock has cooking is because everyone knows Vandy won't hit four wins this year.

 

[Glitch]

So which is it?

Mehlen can’t recruit


Or


Mississippi St roster is loaded


Just trying to keep up here for future reference.

Some of the takes in here lately are pretty warm and will probably explode at some point.

 

[JacketVol]

You play an instrument don’t you?

Flute

 

[JacketVol]

Lol, thanks for the solid parable.

I should have just read the book of Job.

Flute player

 

[JacketVol]

LA and I have had a difference a time or two, but I am fairly confident has a connection(s). He has generally stated things well before they have unfolded or been discussed by paid sites.

Yep. He’s legit but can be pretentious at times. Reminds me of well, me.

Doc H

 

[Sleegro]

Some weird poster named sleegro. Most of us have him on ignore tbh

Hey now. You can't ignore me. I ignored you first.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Yep. He’s legit but can be pretentious at times. Reminds me of well, me.

Doc H

Evidently Mr. Ringo's an educated man. Now I really hate him.

 

[reVOLution33]

Because it's been an eventful football week.. Maybe a few things clarified from a roster standpoint... Why not?

Offense:
QB: Guarantano/Chryst -- feeling like we're in good hands regardless, as long as the locker room is together behind the starter.
RB: London/Chandler/Banks -- I like the committee approach. Not a whole lot of credence in a feature back anymore.
(Select packages-- FB: Pope/Blakely -- yes, please and out of the I Formation, too thanks)
WR: Jennings/Callaway/Byrd/Williams/Johnson/Murphy/Palmer -- too much talent there to be subpar. CDJ will have them helping the QB's tremendously.
TE: Wood-Anderson/Wolf -- It'll be nice to see a sixth OL on most plays involving the TE, but I'm also excited to see DWA catch some seams over the middle. Glad Eli knows how to block now.
OL (l-r): Smith/Richmond/Kennedy/Carvin/Hall starting with Tatum/Calbert/RyJohnson/JahJohnson/Tatum backing them up.. Lane well over 300 now, as is Devante Brooks now, right? I'm rooting for Brooks to carve out his niche, because he's worked hard to come back from injury over his HS Sr year, and to transition from TE to OL. Gotta be difficult to do. Don't look now, but our starters may be able to form a competent unit, especially against lower and middling front-sevens.

Defense:
Front Seven:
DL: Gooden/Tuttle/Phillips followed by Emerson/Crosby/Butler?/Bennett? -- We have pieces. I don't know how in shape Alexis Johnson is, and I don't know if we can rely on Deandre Johnson, even though he was a name that seemed to be doing the right things in practice last year. I like our starters here, and hopefully we have enough playable depth to be able to cycle through the 2-deep in a single game.
LB: Kongbo/Peterson/Bituli/Sapp with quality depth in DKJr/Taylor/Ignont/Allen -- I really can't wait to see our pass rush under Sherrer and Rocker.
CB: Alontae Taylor and (am I hearing this correctly?) Bryce Thompson could be starting the WVU game? Really doesn't bode well for depth, but Baylen Buchanan and hopefully Marquill Osborne can pick up some slack
STAR: Abernathy/Shamburger -- Abernathy got a little slower last year, and Shamburger had a game against Bama. This may be switched around by the time we play Mizzou.
S: Warrior/TKJr and a healthy rotation of Theo Jackson, please.

I may have on my orange-tinted glasses here, but it looks like we have some pieces to work with here. I don't buy for a second that Florida and Carolina out-class us when it comes to talent. We should definitely go bowling if our OL and QB play are even marginally better, which I think both are safe to bet on.

I'm not saying XV-Nulla, but I'm not not saying it either.

The new redshirt rule, i believe, will help us tremendously. We can 👀 what these freshmen can do out the gate and if they need a year, they get experience at no cost to them. We will no longer have to guess if we should have ruined so&so's redshirt. I think we are atleast a 7-5 team. Ive said it since before Pruitt was hired. Wouldnt be disappointed at 6-6 but i think its more likely to go 8-4 than 6-6. This, i think will really get out recruiting going and maybe pull in Hampton, and at least give Norton a lot to think on.

 

[reVOLution33]

Darrell Taylor is a Starter at OLB. He won’t be a backup.

Exactly.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Flute player

How did you guess.... My secret.... How could....!?!

Aghhhhhhh.....

🤣😂😁

 

[McGeesPub]

Okay, so let me ask you:

Out of the candidates I mentioned, who's a better fit for Tennessee than Pruitt?

Would you have been comfortable shilling out $10M/year to Gruden? Would you have been okay with the inevitable FCS or G5 loss that Mike Leach can't avoid? Would it have been acceptable in your opinion to wait until December/January to start reeling in our entire class of 3*'s like what's happening with UCLA?

It's okay to have differing opinions. I'm not saying I'm right or anything, no such thing as a "correct" opinion. I just don't know what you're crabbing about.

Speaking in the moment of the search, I would have taken anyone on your list (and Kiffin and Brohm) except for Doeren over Pruitt. I would have been equally as uninterested in Tee as Pruitt. Before he was hired, I thought Pruitt was a grade A scumbag, and probably the SEC coach I took most delight in lighting up. Couldn’t stand the guy. I’ve warmed up to him a little bit since then, but I’d still take the same coaches over him now as then if I recall all of them on your list. I don’t know anything about fit, because he hasn’t proven anything fits yet, aside from his Southern accent I suppose.

That said, as much as I love a good coaching search, the last decade is all that I can stomach, so I’d rather him succeed than start back over after more of the same.

 

[reVOLution33]

A comment that stood out to me from media days is even Pruitt was asked how he feels about the QB room/situation...

And he rewpond by saying he feels good about competition blah blah but the. He said he thought it was important to basically figure it out the starter quickly so our team can build some rythem.

I wonder even if he knows who his starter is...will he release it publicly or try and hide it from WV.

I would say if it isnt JG we will know about it.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

The new redshirt rule, i believe, will help us tremendously. We can 👀 what these freshmen can do out the gate and if they need a year, they get experience at no cost to them. We will no longer have to guess if we should have ruined so&so's redshirt. I think we are atleast a 7-5 team. Ive said it since before Pruitt was hired. Wouldnt be disappointed at 6-6 but i think its more likely to go 8-4 than 6-6. This, i think will really get out recruiting going and maybe pull in Hampton, and at least give Norton a lot to think on.

My floor is five wins-- 3 cupcakes, Vandy, Kentucky. It's a baseline to get back to beating Vandy and Kentucky every year.

Most practically, I have us winning six, getting a win off of one of Florida/Carolina/Mizzou.

If we win the cupcakes/Vandy/Kentucky, plus two of Florida/Carolina/Mizzou, we're ahead of schedule. If we only win one of those middling-good SEC East teams and shock WVU or Auburn, we should be white hot on the recruiting trail.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Speaking in the moment of the search, I would have taken anyone on your list (and Kiffin and Brohm) except for Doeren over Pruitt. I would have been equally as uninterested in Tee as Pruitt. Before he was hired, I thought Pruitt was a grade A scumbag, and probably the SEC coach I took most delight in lighting up. Couldn’t stand the guy. I’ve warmed up to him a little bit since then, but I’d still take the same coaches over him now as then if I recall all of them on your list. I don’t know anything about fit, because he hasn’t proven anything fits yet, aside from his Southern accent I suppose.

That said, as much as I love a good coaching search, the last decade is all that I can stomach, so I’d rather him succeed than start back over after more of the same.

That explains a lot then.

 

[McGeesPub]

That explains a lot then.

Maybe one of us is biased, and one of us is prone to rationalization. No one’s perfect.

 

[jordan4vols]

Is this 4 game rule for redshirting just the first four games or any 4 games? For instance rash of injuries JT Shrout has to play last three games. Can he still redshirt?

 

[engineerVOL]

Is this 4 game rule for redshirting just the first four games or any 4 games? For instance rash of injuries JT Shrout has to play last three games. Can he still redshirt?

ANY four games. A single snap in up to four games. Not the equivalent of 16 quarters stretched across the entire season.

 

[jordan4vols]

ANY four games. A single snap in up to four games. Not the equivalent of 16 quarters stretched across the entire season.

So the hope is they get time against E Tenn and Utep after WV....then if not needed nothing until Charlotte and then be a redshirt freshman next year.

 

[HankHill]

The redshirt rule is the best rule the ncaa has made maybe ever.

 

[engineerVOL]

So the hope is they get time against E Tenn and Utep after WV....then if not needed nothing until Charlotte and then be a redshirt freshman next year.

Bingo.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The redshirt rule is the best rule the ncaa has made maybe ever.

Yes it is. It should have been done years ago.