Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[volfanCLT]

Hugh to FSU?

I just can’t see Hugh and Willy getting along trying to run an offense

 

[revjayp]

Haslams know that Pruitt won’t survive without a great OC and that will make Phil look bad. They are petty, ignorant people who have more money than knowledge.

 

[05_never_again]

He's proven with QBs. I like that. He works in a system that I think Pruitt likes (explosive passing game with brutal running game) at Bama, and probably has to have a pretty good feel for it to get Hurts to evolve the way he did this year. I know Tua is a phenom, but he certainly wasn't handicapped by Enos. The line will work itself out through recruiting, so getting QBs to a point where they are actual field generals is important. Enos might be a good fit for that. We got fixated on Freeze, and that's fine, but his hiring really shouldn't be a pass / fail evaluation on the program. I'd rather deem the hire a failure based on results, not whether it satiated a twitter following that, in general, doesn't really know a gahdang thing about Tennessee football beyond what channel the game is on (not directed at you, but twitter is giving me a headache today).

Freeze did not feature a brutal running game at Ole Miss to put it mildly. It was a pass-heavy, scrambling QB-dependent offense that ran at warp speed. Frankly, I don't think Pruitt is too fond of that style, but he's clearly considered Freeze anyway. He'd be foolish not to.

 

[UTSuave’]

Just honestly tired of the clipboard holder hires,we all seen where the Helton hire got us this year as far as offense play calling goes.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

He's proven with QBs. I like that. He works in a system that I think Pruitt likes (explosive passing game with brutal running game) at Bama, and probably has to have a pretty good feel for it to get Hurts to evolve the way he did this year. I know Tua is a phenom, but he certainly wasn't handicapped by Enos. The line will work itself out through recruiting, so getting QBs to a point where they are actual field generals is important. Enos might be a good fit for that. We got fixated on Freeze, and that's fine, but his hiring really shouldn't be a pass / fail evaluation on the program. I'd rather deem the hire a failure based on results, not whether it satiated a twitter following that, in general, doesn't really know a gahdang thing about Tennessee football beyond what channel the game is on (not directed at you, but twitter is giving me a headache today).

I got fixated on Freeze because..I KNOW what he can do..the other guys are just shots in the dark to me..good shots in the dark maybe, but still..just hopefuls..

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

FSU now looking for a OC as theirs just took the HC job at Umass.

 

[DD4ME]

I
Must
Stop


Good
Bye
Cruel
Search

Some of you are great

The rest of you can debate with a wall

 

[m1al]

Totally off topic, but would you guys buy a Stihl or Husqvarna chainsaw.

I've bought two Stihls. One of them is almost 25 years old and still runs like a top.. Hope that helps.

 

[Smokey123]

I said I wouldn't hate it. I just don't know how much I believe on him, but I didn't feel any different about Lindsey. I know what Freeze can do with an offense..I watched him destroy great defenses with Bo freakin Wallace...let that marinate...

He would probably turn whichever QB we go with into a 3000 passer. In his 3 seasons as OC he produced 2 of them, the third year his QB got hurt. He also hung 30 on Bama and was consistently scoring 30 vs SEC west defenses. Before he showed up Brandon Allen was only throwing for 2000 yards and barely completing 50%. He also hung 31 on UF who had a top 5 defense, only 4 teams scored over 20 vs them that year and 2 of them was us and Bama.

I’d feel pretty good with Enos

 

[volfaninpa]

Hugh goes to FSU, lies in the weeds long enough, and takes the job when Taggart is fired in 1-2 years?

Thoughts?

Hugh with Florida talent, an ACC schedule would be a much easier path to the playoff than an SEC school.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Freeze did not feature a brutal running game at Ole Miss to put it mildly. It was a pass-heavy, scrambling QB-dependent offense that ran at warp speed. Frankly, I don't think Pruitt is too fond of that style, but he's clearly considered Freeze anyway. He'd be foolish not to.

That’s true but I think he had an issue recruiting decent rbs. Personnel dictated what he was able to do with the offense.

 

[buffaloblue]

Is Hugh out?

Did Lindley go to kansas?

Enos in play?

Long day

 

[HankHill]

Freeze isn’t going to liberty lol

 

[VAVolsFan2009]

Someone supposedly close to Freeze said in a tweet that Freeze wanted to take the process slowly so that he could see just what options were available for him. This may be the cause of the delay in an announcement. Also they said that Freeze wants to be a head coach as soon as possible. That's his real goal. So he will chose which option he feels gets him to that goal.

Given all that, I'm not sure that it is in our best interest to hire a one and done OC. We need some measure of continuity over the next couple of years. I'm not sure what other option might be the best for the long term.

 

[BruinVol]

Is Hugh out?

Did Lindley go to kansas?

Enos in play?

Long day

It's still going to be freeze imo

 

[UTSuave’]

Freeze isn’t going to liberty lol

Go on....

 

[05_never_again]

That’s true but I think he had an issue recruiting decent rbs. Personnel dictated what he was able to do with the offense.

He didn't have any issues recruiting any other positions though. RBs simply were never featured in the offense he liked to run. He absolutely had the exact personnel he wanted to run his offense.

 

[Aesius]

Someone supposedly close to Freeze said in a tweet that Freeze wanted to take the process slowly so that he could see just what options were available for him. This may be the cause of the delay in an announcement. Also they said that Freeze wants to be a head coach as soon as possible. That's his real goal. So he will chose which option he feels gets him to that goal.

Given all that, I'm not sure that it is in our best interest to hire a one and done OC. We need some measure of continuity over the next couple of years. I'm not sure what other option might be the best for the long term.

By the time Freeze has enough success here to jump back into a major head coaching job (or at least one of the caliber that he wants), enough time will have passed that we'll be okay to move on. Kiffin stayed at Bama for three years and had huge success in year one.

 

[BruinVol]

By the time Freeze has enough success here to jump back into a major head coaching job (or at least one of the caliber that he wants), enough time will have passed that we'll be okay to move on. Kiffin stayed at Bama for three years and had huge success in year one.

Freezes success at tenn has nothing to do with him getting a Head coaching job.

See Helton and then today wth the Fsu OC getting hired as evidence

 

[BigOrangeVols]

Totally off topic, but would you guys buy a Stihl or Husqvarna chainsaw.

Stihl without comparing any individual models. Gotta compare apples to apples. Had problems with some Husky equip, never had any with Stihl.

 

[Geaux_Vols]

Freeze did not feature a brutal running game at Ole Miss to put it mildly. It was a pass-heavy, scrambling QB-dependent offense that ran at warp speed. Frankly, I don't think Pruitt is too fond of that style, but he's clearly considered Freeze anyway. He'd be foolish not to.

I believe he, being a football guy, recognizes the capabilities of another talented football guy, and is likely drawn to that.

 

[volswillrise12]

Freeze ain’t coming here ya’ll—Tennessee going to Tennessee. When Bama wants him it’s no biggie—When we do it’s a huge friggin deal and a reason for some school administrator to grand stand and ride the moral high horse.

 

[rjd970]

By the time Freeze has enough success here to jump back into a major head coaching job (or at least one of the caliber that he wants), enough time will have passed that we'll be okay to move on. Kiffin stayed at Bama for three years and had huge success in year one.

It would take a 10-11 win type season with amazing offensive production for freeze to get serious HC offers from major programs. I would be good with that. Great year, foundation set for success and it would mean we beat everybody on our schedule minus Bama and/or UGA. Well worth a one and done.

 

[05_never_again]

Someone supposedly close to Freeze said in a tweet that Freeze wanted to take the process slowly so that he could see just what options were available for him. This may be the cause of the delay in an announcement. Also they said that Freeze wants to be a head coach as soon as possible. That's his real goal. So he will chose which option he feels gets him to that goal.

Given all that, I'm not sure that it is in our best interest to hire a one and done OC. We need some measure of continuity over the next couple of years. I'm not sure what other option might be the best for the long term.

If Freeze is in demand for a HC job next year, especially a higher profile one, I'd say it's a safe assumption the offense he coached this coming season was pretty good.

I can't imagine with his baggage he'd get a good HC offer after one year as OC at Tennessee, Auburn, or any place and the offense sputtered.

He's waiting to see what happens in T-town. Their offense is going to be great next year regardless if Freeze is the OC or not. Freeze likely wants to be the OC there, look good, and give himself the best chance to get a good HC offer.

 

[Aesius]

Freezes success at tenn has nothing to do with him getting a Head coaching job.

See Helton and then today wth the Fsu OC getting hired as evidence

Helton went to WKU and FSU OC went to UMass. Freeze has his sights set on something higher. If he lights it up at UT he will get the offers he wants. I don't think we have the personnel for him to do that until maybe year 2-3 though.