Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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I’m perfectly fine with them being careful and looking into the Briarcrest allegations. No problem there imo. But, maybe they should’ve done this earlier, right?
Exactly, this should have already been done. There are other good OC candidates we are gonna miss out on the longer we take on this.
 
I’m perfectly fine with them being careful and looking into the Briarcrest allegations. No problem there imo. But, maybe they should’ve done this earlier, right?
Exactly. I think Helton leaving did not catch Pruitt off Guard. And because of that already knew who he wanted to target before there was officially a search. If that's the case, the moment there was an opening you begin looking in to all of that immediately, knowing that you're gonna have to clear those hurdles if you want to hire him. Does that take longer than a week? No idea but seems as if they could have figured that all out by now. They knew the guy has a past...
 
I’m tired of people lobbing vague accusations of misconduct at Freeze. Kingston (or anybody else), if you know of misconduct, tell us.

If you know and won’t say anything, you’re just protecting a sex abuser.

If you don’t know, stop proclaiming him a sex abuser.
Yeah, I’m skeptical of allegations that didn’t come out until Freeze’s misconduct is already publicly known. It’s a strange phenomenon that people like to jump on and make false allegations anytime this happens to a public figure. But, you have to be careful
 
I didn’t see the tweet either. I’m just responding to Kingston’s post that there’s more to the Briar crest stuff. Bama could hire him and not have to worry about it, if we hire him and something comes out, we’ll probably get hammered

See this is the thing. I don’t care what the national media’s opinion of a Freeze hire at UT would be, but if it’s Tennessee they are going to be uniquely motivated to go hunt down every female student that went to Briarcrest and go all Brett Kavanaugh against him. Who knows what they’ll turn up? That won’t happen if Freeze gets hired at Auburn or FSU because the media doesn’t have a score to settle with those schools like they do with Tennessee. That is probably what the University is struggling with (and investigating) right now. It’s not what they know about him that is holding this up, it’s what they don’t know that scares them.
 
Yeah, I’m skeptical of allegations that didn’t come out until Freeze’s misconduct is already publicly known. It’s a strange phenomenon that people like to jump on and make false allegations anytime this happens to a public figure. But, you have to be careful
Like when a Supreme Court nominee is up for vote?
 
If there are all these issues with Freeze, why even get this far into the process?

We should've just pursued Lindsey or Enos immediately and vetted Freeze before wasting all this time.

Such a clusterf***. Someone needs to send our entire administration from the AD up to a "how to hire coaches" class.

Pruitt sat down and spoke to Freeze, apparently, within a couple days of Helton leaving. That's really all we know. Are we really that far into the process with him? People would be trying to burn this place down if Pruitt hadn't talked to Freeze within a week of the OC spot opening because he was being "vetted."
 
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Yeah, I’m skeptical of allegations that didn’t come out until Freeze’s misconduct is already publicly known. It’s a strange phenomenon that people like to jump on and make false allegations anytime this happens to a public figure. But, you have to be careful
One of the reasons victims don't come forward right away or ever is because people like you won't believe them.
 
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See this is the thing. I don’t care what the national media’s opinion of a Freeze hire at UT would be, but if it’s Tennessee they are going to be uniquely motivated to go hunt down every female student that went to Briarcrest and go all Brett Kavanaugh against him. Who knows what they’ll turn up? That won’t happen if Freeze gets hired at Auburn or FSU because the media doesn’t have a score to settle with those schools like they do with Tennessee. That is probably what the University is struggling with (and investigating) right now. It’s not what they know about him that is holding this up, it’s what they don’t know that scares them.

IMO, if you act scared of the media and do not stand up to them, they will come at you even harder..
 
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Do you all not think he was just another name saban made look good at bama? Or did you all really like his play calling?
I think if he was good enough to be OC at Bama, he's probably capable enough to be OC here. Was QB Coach and OC during the Pete Carroll years I believe. He did well with Locker at Washington too. Pruitt knows him. Just an option should we not get Freeze.
 
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No offense intended, but I think everybody who is actively following this thread at this point has seen that. The worst allegation in that article is that one time he made a girl change shirts (to comply with dress code) in his office. If true, I find that entirely inappropriate, but importantly, it is not clear whether he was watching or whether the corner where she supposedly changed did give some privacy, etc.

But more to the point, Kingston specifically said there is more about Briarcrest than is known publicly. That’s what I’m talking about — if so, tell us. If all you’ve got is the shirt-changing story, then don’t act like there’s a whole trove of stories of sex abuse.
 
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