Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Pridedad]

For the record, if I start espousing unpopular opinions, it's most likely the lack of sleep causing my filter to malfunction.

you must never sleep then

 

[LA Vol]

The coaches have been holding off on taking commitments from some guys ready to hop in-- guys that were once thought to be takes. They've moved some visits to January, after the playoffs. They're passing over guys with academic and character issues-- even if they're in-state or local guys-- and they're paying attention to red flags and reasons for being in the portal. And if a popular pick makes demands out of line with that player's perceived value, the coaches move on to the next guy and let another program pay the freight for a player they don't think is worth it. They're being selective, protecting the culture they've worked hard to build and avoiding headaches and misfits.

None of this indicates any sort of panic or concern; it indicates a quiet confidence in getting the players they want and feel they most need. These may not be the players recruiting services favor or fans want. They're going after the guys they think we can win with and they're trusting their own evaluations. They clearly like the guys coming in and think time is on our side in filling the remaining spots. They're going to do it their way.

 

[Orangeburst]

The coaches have been holding off on taking commitments from some guys ready to hop in-- guys that were once thought to be takes. They've moved some visits to January, after the playoffs. They're passing over guys with academic and character issues-- even if they're in-state or local guys-- and they're paying attention to red flags and reasons for being in the portal. And if a popular pick makes demands out of line with that player's perceived value, the coaches move on to the next guy and let another program pay the freight for a player they don't think is worth it. They're being selective, protecting the culture they've worked hard to build and avoiding headaches and misfits.

None of this indicates any sort of panic or concern; it indicates a quiet confidence in getting the players they want and feel they most need. These may not be the players recruiting services favor or fans want. They're going after the guys they think we can win with and they're trusting their own evaluations. They clearly like the guys coming in and think time is on our side in filling the remaining spots. They're going to do it their way.

Who was the RB that was dismissed?
Bad fit example

 

[thistime]

They’re probably not going to get the hype though.

That's exactly right.

Portal guys from smaller schools are the new JUCO players. Guys you can slide in as starters or significant contributors on day one.

There are also guys that are leaving one school because of a coaching change, or because they ultimately regret their decision and want to go to the other school that recruited them closely.

But you are correct that the small school guys looking for a bigger stage are the studs.

Look at this OL kid everybody wants from Rhode Island.....they're out there.

 

[LA Vol]

Who was the RB that was dismissed?
Bad fit example

Dixon?

 

[volinokc]

The coaches have been holding off on taking commitments from some guys ready to hop in-- guys that were once thought to be takes. They've moved some visits to January, after the playoffs. They're passing over guys with academic and character issues-- even if they're in-state or local guys-- and they're paying attention to red flags and reasons for being in the portal. And if a popular pick makes demands out of line with that player's perceived value, the coaches move on to the next guy and let another program pay the freight for a player they don't think is worth it. They're being selective, protecting the culture they've worked hard to build and avoiding headaches and misfits.

None of this indicates any sort of panic or concern; it indicates a quiet confidence in getting the players they want and feel they most need. These may not be the players recruiting services favor or fans want. They're going after the guys they think we can win with and they're trusting their own evaluations. They clearly like the guys coming in and think time is on our side in filling the remaining spots. They're going to do it their way.

If you look at the transfer class rankings from last year, you’ll see very few if any of the highly rated classes actually led to an improvement on the field for their respective school. There’s a reason for that. I’m glad we are being patient and selective. If a player transfers from, say, Oregon to Arizona, isn’t that a red flag?

 

[SweetasSoda]

The coaches have been holding off on taking commitments from some guys ready to hop in-- guys that were once thought to be takes. They've moved some visits to January, after the playoffs. They're passing over guys with academic and character issues-- even if they're in-state or local guys-- and they're paying attention to red flags and reasons for being in the portal. And if a popular pick makes demands out of line with that player's perceived value, the coaches move on to the next guy and let another program pay the freight for a player they don't think is worth it. They're being selective, protecting the culture they've worked hard to build and avoiding headaches and misfits.

None of this indicates any sort of panic or concern; it indicates a quiet confidence in getting the players they want and feel they most need. These may not be the players recruiting services favor or fans want. They're going after the guys they think we can win with and they're trusting their own evaluations. They clearly like the guys coming in and think time is on our side in filling the remaining spots. They're going to do it their way.

Thank you!

 

[thistime]

The coaches have been holding off on taking commitments from some guys ready to hop in-- guys that were once thought to be takes. They've moved some visits to January, after the playoffs. They're passing over guys with academic and character issues-- even if they're in-state or local guys-- and they're paying attention to red flags and reasons for being in the portal. And if a popular pick makes demands out of line with that player's perceived value, the coaches move on to the next guy and let another program pay the freight for a player they don't think is worth it. They're being selective, protecting the culture they've worked hard to build and avoiding headaches and misfits.

None of this indicates any sort of panic or concern; it indicates a quiet confidence in getting the players they want and feel they most need. These may not be the players recruiting services favor or fans want. They're going after the guys they think we can win with and they're trusting their own evaluations. They clearly like the guys coming in and think time is on our side in filling the remaining spots. They're going to do it their way.

When the staff and players have worked so hard to get to where they are I for one am glad they are not just looking at talent but looking at fit as well. It only takes one or two people with an attitude to really mess up what they have worked hard to build. Talent means a lot but so does character if you want to win in the long run.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Look at this OL kid everybody wants from Rhode Island.....they're out there.

But we didn’t have the hype of a big star recruit visiting. Or the fight among others for him. Just was announced. Nobody said much Then he gets a ranking boost….. on to worrying about other things.

 

[volbeast33]

 

[LA Vol]

If you look at the transfer class rankings from last year, you’ll see very few if any of the highly rated classes actually led to an improvement on the field for their respective school. There’s a reason for that. I’m glad we are being patient and selective. If a player transfers from, say, Oregon to Arizona, isn’t that a red flag?

UT hasn't been burned much, but the misses speak to the importance of fit, culture, attitude and work ethic. Players not all-in on meshing with the team, earning their spot and taking care of academics won't last at UT. Some of the guys the coaches aren't going after, or lost interest in, track back to that.

 

[SSVol]

I don't recall hearing his name much, was he a contributor this year? Our DL was really solid and we rotated a lot of guys, so this seems like it may sting a little.

This confuses me. You don't recall hearing his name, suggesting that he wasn't a contributor. Why then would it sting for him to leave?

 

[Glitch]

Feels like ‘98 - should I clear?

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[swchandler1988]

If you look at the transfer class rankings from last year, you’ll see very few if any of the highly rated classes actually led to an improvement on the field for their respective school. There’s a reason for that. I’m glad we are being patient and selective. If a player transfers from, say, Oregon to Arizona, isn’t that a red flag?

Eh, I mean the top three schools were SoCal, LSU and Ole Miss (OM replacing Matt Corral). Oklahoma was 4th and they didn’t do much, but your next two (Texas and Bama) did well. I see what you’re saying, kind of, but there’s a pretty good correlation between highly ranked portal class and on field success

 

[LA Vol]

Anyone else read this as Not Ohio State lol

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Too good to be accidental!

 

[SweetasSoda]

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[engineerVOL]

That's exactly right.

Portal guys from smaller schools are the new JUCO players. Guys you can slide in as starters or significant contributors on day one.

There are also guys that are leaving one school because of a coaching change, or because they ultimately regret their decision and want to go to the other school that recruited them closely.

But you are correct that the small school guys looking for a bigger stage are the studs.

Good point. Can you imagine the canvassing the recruiting department has to employ to find players?

 

[Ron Swanson]

I don't recall hearing his name much, was he a contributor this year? Our DL was really solid and we rotated a lot of guys, so this seems like it may sting a little.

Was this a surprise?

Yes it is….sounds like he felt like he was gonna play and when he didn’t it became a deal.

- AP

 

[LA Vol]

I have been reading a lot about the portal players. I think the best value in the portal are the guys at smaller schools wanting to move up. Maybe they played at a smaller HS, didn't get the hype etc. and now they have something to prove, instead of somebody just looking for a deal.

They tend to be appreciative of the opportunity and willing to put in the hard work and extra effort to be developed by top-tier coaches for the next level. When the most-recruited players follow the herd to the same schools, good recruiters can find value in overlooked players with goals and drive. Even if we have to Google their names.

 

[BigSteve09]

Feels like ‘98 - should I clear?

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it's about to feel like 1998 on a 56k modem around here if you don't clear those notifications

 

[jpope9]

-AP

 

[B EaZy40]

Feels like ‘98 - should I clear?

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Take Juan for the team and clear them!

 

[VOLINVONORE]

If you look at the transfer class rankings from last year, you’ll see very few if any of the highly rated classes actually led to an improvement on the field for their respective school. There’s a reason for that. I’m glad we are being patient and selective. If a player transfers from, say, Oregon to Arizona, isn’t that a red flag?

USCe, LSU, Ole Miss, LSU all improved their teams last year and the Vols also did, especially at the QB position.

 

[BigSteve09]

Jackson, a former Top247 prospect who was Tennessee’s No. 3 quarterback behind Hooker and Milton before getting hurt, was thought to be targeting a full-strength return for spring practice, but he went through all drills normally during the open-viewing period of Saturday’s practice, throwing passes to the running backs in one drill and going through the usual repertoire of routes-on-air with the wide receivers and tight ends later on.

“I think if we continue down the stretch that we have – he’s been back, he’s been practicing here the last week – as long as we continue on that, I feel like he’ll be available for us when we get to Miami.”

 

[LA Vol]

Anyone traction with the JuCo guys still on our radar?

Elijah Davis, East Mississippi C.C., Defensive Line

Keyshawn Blackstock, Coffeyville C.C., Offensive Line

Blackstock might be a take we're waiting to make depending on what Cornelius' decision is Wednesday.

Coaches held off on taking commitments from those two while evaluating other options. Slow-playing comes with risks, but coaches have that "other fish in the sea" mentality with a lot of time left to finish the class.