Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

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BruisedOrange said:
That's a good point: it is a matter of personal preferences.

I'm just advocating for the player against fan expectations that may not be fair or informed. Clemson adjusted in the 2nd half and I don't believe Aaron had another unblocked blitz path to the QB, and was unable to create pressure when he encountered a blocker. On the other hand (and maybe because of that adjustment) we got more pressure from the edges in the 2nd half. [I haven't broken down the game, I'm just offering eyeball assessment, FWIW]

Beasley had several other notable plays in the game, with some key assisted tackles in short yardage. But I have no idea how he graded out according to the coaches. We fans seldom do. And the same goes for good games: a player may grade out at near perfect performance for a game, but to our eyes he was a non-factor, just because we don't know what his assignments were for that game.

So yes, my personal preference is to lower expectations and be pleasantly surprised when it counts. But I also push back against "fans" robbing our players of recognition for their real accomplishments, just because those fans (not you, but average fans) kept raising their expectations during the off-season, just to manufacture that dopaminergic "football high" we all miss in anticipation of August.

IMHO we would all be healthier (and happier in the long run) if we got our off-season football fix from YouTube, enjoying past achievements through Freak's archiving efforts. Watching those games in their entirety also reminds us that those victories didn't come nearly as easily or as quickly as our selective memories now remember them.
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Explained well. Think this is what bothers McGill so much. And drives me insane when fans bash players who chose Tennessee and give their all while the fan is only putting forth emotional effort. I just like to imagine who could be good the next year. But I have lived long enough and watched enough to know that things don’t always go as expected.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
Explained well. Think this is what bothers McGill so much. And drives me insane when fans bash players who chose Tennessee and give their all while the fan is only putting forth emotional effort. I just like to imagine who could be good the next year. But I have lived long enough and watched enough to know that things don’t always go as expected.
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Yeah and in regards to their Beasley discussion

I remember him being MUCH maligned in 2021 like he was the worst linebacker we have ever had and was a lost cause.

Then he very obviously took a huge leap last year. Odds are he keeps improving, because he's already shown he can.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Yeah and in regards to their Beasley discussion

I remember him being MUCH maligned in 2021 like he was the worst linebacker we have ever had and was a lost cause.

Then he very obviously took a huge leap last year. Odds are he keeps improving, because he's already shown he can.
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Yeah, I remember the lost cause (so many get labeled like this) and hated having his good performance turned into “it’s just a bowl game” so don’t expect anything much. If it were me, I would not like for that accomplishment to be diminished just so some won’t have to learn how to deal with disappointment.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
What makes bowl preparation unique is
1) you have all those weeks after regular season instead of just 1 week in the season to analyze video, and​
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2) you're analyzing a whole season's worth of video, so you know everything they've done all season, what others have done against them, what each player might do (like "tells" in poker) before certain types of play, as well as what they've done most successfully in various down & yardage situations.​

With all that extra information, it's much easier for coaches to put players in situations to succeed in a bowl game--unless the opposing team's self-research correctly anticipates what the other team is going to try to take advantage of.

That's also why totally overmatched teams often look so good in season openers, even registering huge upsets: because they had all summer to put in new stuff just for that season opening "pays-for-the-rest-of-the-season" game against a football powerhouse.

Adding to that mismatched mismatch, the favored team is likely to play self-limiting "vanilla" so they don't give away anything to their upcoming conference opponent.
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SweetasSoda said:
What does UTSA stand for?
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University of Tennessee Jr - San Antonio

UTSA Usb Twin Serial Adapter
UTSA Unite Theatre for Social Action (Bangladesh)
UTSA Uniform and Textile ServicesAssociation
UTSA Uniform Trade Secrets Act of 1985
UTSA University of Toronto Secular Alliance (Canada)
 
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BruisedOrange said:
What makes bowl preparation unique is
1) you have all those weeks after regular season instead of just 1 week in the season to analyze video, and​
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2) you're analyzing a whole season's worth of video, so you know everything they've done all season, what others have done against them, what each player might do (like "tells" in poker) before certain types of play, as well as what they've done most successfully in various down & yardage situations.​

With all that extra information, it's much easier for coaches to put players in situations to succeed in a bowl game--unless the opposing team's self-research correctly anticipates what the other team is going to try to take advantage of.

That's also why totally overmatched teams often look so good in season openers, even registering huge upsets: because they had all summer to put in new stuff just for that season opening "pays-for-the-rest-of-the-season" game against a football powerhouse.

Adding to that mismatched mismatch, the favored team is likely to play self-limiting "vanilla" so they don't give away anything to their upcoming conference opponent.
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I should have worn boots before I tried to wade through this BS.
 
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Ace said:
We would have went in 1998, but we went to National Championship game instead at Fiesta Bowl. We won SEC championship in 1997 too and played Nebraska in Orange Bowl.
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We were talking about the Sugar Bowl. I am aware of what we did in 1997 and 1998, but we didn't go to the Sugar Bowl. I was at the National Championship Game in the Fiesta Bowl (following the 1998 season) as well as 2000 Fiesta Bowl (following the 1999 season).
 
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utvols83 said:
The biggest thing they did for Joe was they didn't give him deep throws early and let him just make a lot of routine throws inside 15 yards from the LOS and it settled him down. Some guys just need help settling into a game. Just my opinion, but I think it's simple with Joe. Don't let him press to make the big play down field when he's amped up early in the game and he's fine. I get that bowl prep is different than regular game prep, but Joe's issues seem to be more about his nerves than his preparation. He's admitted that's he's a bit nervous and amped up early in games.
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While I don't disagree about guys needing to settle into a game and maybe Joe is one of those, but I think the 2nd or 3rd pass in the Andy game was a deep shot to Hyatt who caught it and fell down at the 2 yard line.
 
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Ace said:
We would have went in 1998, but we went to National Championship game instead at Fiesta Bowl. We won SEC championship in 1997 too and played Nebraska in Orange Bowl.
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Although I'm glad we did, dont forget we got screwed out of this year's Sugar Bowl. We should have went as the SEC's second best team, with UGA going to playoff.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
Never heard much about them. When did they become good? Strengths? Good coach? Just get a lot of leftover recruits from the big guys?
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They went 11-3 last season and finished with the 14th ranked offense. Their QB is power 5 level good imo.

The game is sandwiched between Florida and South Carolina which makes me a little uneasy as well.

Don’t get me wrong, we should beat them pretty easily but I see it as a game that could be close at halftime and then we pull away in the second half.
 
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