Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Jackcrevol]

Like Freeze or not this is pretty impressive

isnt that exactly what Huepel and Co did?

Freeze can kick rocks.

 

[bigl3327]

I realize we picked up a LB today lmao.

Yes, you are correct he was, but considering what we had, not that eye opening. Like I said, he is a solid backup

So you would bring in 2 portal LBs? And bench a 2 year starter that knows your defense? Oh, and relegate the 5 LBs you've brought in the last two classes to primarily special teams? Sound strategy....

 

[you]

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Dang bro, you already putting on the weight

 

[bigl3327]

We probably have room for 2-3 more guys assuming no one leaves. Don't be surprise if we like our young guys we are not too active in the portal after the bowl game. WR, CB, and OT would be my guess moving forward.

VQ said uscjr RB (name escapes me) would be a take also.

Marshawn Lloyd

 

[TrippieRedd]

I am honestly curious how we come to such a ridiculous conclusion using the extreme lack of evidence that you actually have in order to formulate that opinion.

Well here, since I have to do an in depth analysis.

Beasley, Mitchell, Perry, and Herring.

So yes, compared to what we have, not that eye opening. Thanks for attending my in depth analysis.

To answer your smartass remark, I did look into it and no I didnt have lack of evidence because all you have to do is LOOK AT THE ****ING DEPTH CHART.

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Born at 8:07am. We have a new Vol boys.

 

[TrippieRedd]

So you would bring in 2 portal LBs? And bench a 2 year starter that knows your defense? Oh, and relegate the 5 LBs you've brought in the last two classes to primarily special teams? Sound strategy....

Bingo.

Let's just try starting 5 guys that haven't had much playing time. Winning formula. You get another LB from the portal, now you have 3 solid guys.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Come on ETSU.

 

[Orange Studs]

What does LA Law have to do with this?

Its nothing big. I was asking about a post between Weezer and LA Law about Bishop the RB who committed. I didn't understand why we were taking him until Weezer told me he was a POW.

 

[jakez4ut]

I think we have to see a new metric in this new age of recruiting plus portal to truly understand the health of a program. An obvious reason is looking at A&Ms #1 class last year, is it number 1 now? How about transfers, how do we figure them in properly.

I suggest there needs to be a rolling 2 year metric based of transfers out, recruits in, and transfers in. That would give you a better indication of the stability of a program. Probably wouldn’t have final ranking until July and August of each year.

Thoughts?

I think there's something to this...

 

[bigl3327]

Bingo.

Let's just try starting 5 guys that haven't had much playing time. Winning formula

First off, no one said start any of them. But they can help form your 2-3 deep. Secondly, did you see Heupel's interview today about building through high school recruiting vs. the portal? You should take a listen.

 

[Jackcrevol]

With all disrepect please shut the **** up

certainly could have been a great class, and, not just a good one. But it isnt because of 3 stars. This is a damn solid group of high character kids.

We land the 5 star WR committed to OSU, or, a high end OL. Like kid who went to MSU, Rommel. And its great.

 

[RikidyBones]

How did FSU bball get so bad?

 

[Devo182]

So it's all make-believe?

That's how hypotheticals work.

The point being to consider how elite this team was.

 

[Devo182]

So I don't really follow recruiting that much. Maybe just briefly over the years. is it wrong to feel sort of dissapointed that we're ranked like an average of 10 on most websites after the year that we had? Florida seems to have more 4 stars and they absolutely sucked this year.

Maybe I'm overreacting. lol

Yes.

It isn't quite how recruiting works. Recruiting is built off of years of relationships and perception. It's well known that current success/failure hardly has an impact on that current year's class. Those relationships have already been built...perceptions well in place.

Our success will do much more for us in the coming classes.

 

[Volfan39]

certainly could have been a great class, and, not just a good one. But it isnt because of 3 stars. This is a damn solid group of high character kids.

We land the 5 star WR committed to OSU, or, a high end OL. Like kid who went to MSU, Rommel. And its great.

I like to include the transfer portal in our recruiting class. If we find another ot or great wide receiver which fills need I would consider this class great. Also glad we didn’t land the Ramil kid, everyone says he is soft

 

[RikidyBones]

looking at Oregon's list, where is that receiver that we thought would follow Nico here that picked Oregon over us?

Buddy has had one catch for four yards this year. Tough scene.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I like to include the transfer portal in our recruiting class. If we find another ot or great wide receiver which fills need I would consider this class great. Also glad we didn’t land the Ramil kid, everyone says he is soft

His Dad went to Bama. He's cushiony.

 

[Glitch]

Haven't been on in a couple of days.

Do we know if Bru McCoy is coming back? Haven't noticed any news on him.

 

[99Vol]

So you would bring in 2 portal LBs? And bench a 2 year starter that knows your defense? Oh, and relegate the 5 LBs you've brought in the last two classes to primarily special teams? Sound strategy....

IMO, Beasley is our best LB. Reads his keys, fits gaps, textbook tackler, and does exactly what the coaches ask. Banks looks active and is but he often is tackling horizontal or chasing down a play which is sometimes his on doing…. BY typically has had some solid LB’s under Kalani and Bronco so I’m excited about this seasoned vet pickup… Also, sooner or later young guys step up and become their own stars that we just can’t lose. This defense is getting better.

 

[Glitch]

Bru McCoy ‘without a doubt’ returning in 2023, ready to ‘help win games’ for Vols

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Wrap your faucets, boys. That’s all I gotta say.

Do that too often and you will go blind…or start to look like Weezer

 

[turdherder11]

Was today early signing day? How'd we do?

 

[Devo182]

I think we have to see a new metric in this new age of recruiting plus portal to truly understand the health of a program. An obvious reason is looking at A&Ms #1 class last year, is it number 1 now? How about transfers, how do we figure them in properly.

I suggest there needs to be a rolling 2 year metric based of transfers out, recruits in, and transfers in. That would give you a better indication of the stability of a program. Probably wouldn’t have final ranking until July and August of each year.

Thoughts?

247 has moved in some ways to give similar outlooks. They began including transfers (in) in their class rankings, which is absolutely critical these days. To only look at HS recruits is missing 20-30+% of many classes. The HS/juco-only rankings are nearing obsolence.

The Team Talent Composite is probably the best all-around picture of a team. It considers every single player actually on the roster, albeit the entire team, so not a 1-2 year snapshot either.

 

[volKano]

We have to start playing our young talent. Have a chance to mix them in with veterans and speed up their development.

I have sat thru 10+ years of playing young talent for the future. The future never turns out as planned. Play the best you got and if the are freshman, so be it. If not, they can develop in practice and film study.