Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

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Orangeburst said:
As part of the five-year NCAAA probation, UT must:
  • Pay fine, including $8 million, 50% of gross revenue paid to SEC for UT's participation in the 2020 TaxSlayer Gator Bowl under Pruitt, $5,000 plus 3% of football budget
  • Vacate all wins and individual records in any game in which 16 individual sanctioned players participated. Those games will announced later.
  • Cut 28 scholarships from its roster over five years. UT had already self-imposed 16 scholarships over the past two seasons.
  • Cease communication with recruits for 28 weeks spread over five years.
  • End unofficial visits by recruits for 40 weeks over five years.
  • Cut 36 official visits by recruits over five years.
  • Cut 120 evaluation days over five years.
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Can we get rid of all the other stuff if we just vacate more wins? ****, they can have every win after 1998 if we get all our schollys and visits back.

Making you pretend you didn't win games is far and away the silliest punishment the NCAA has in their tool belt. "Oh no! An asterisk on our Wikipedia page!" lol
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Screw, the NCAA, wanting to vacate wins! Why are the sanctioned players not getting any penalties, when they knew it was illegal to take money? Instead, almost all of the penalties affect our current staff and players, who are not even involved in any of it! That is what ticks me off about all of this.
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They can vacate the entire Pruitt era if they like to… I’d appreciate it. Next step is to vacate it from Vol Fans minds
 
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No postseason ban is huge. The potential of that hurt us quite a bit on the trail imo.

Second relief is that scholarship reductions are already mitigated by what we self imposed. So only 12 reductions over the next 5 years is only 2.4 per year. We’ve already been operating like that anyway.

Reduced visits suck but the first two areas were the most important. Now we can move forward.
 
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So in the ncaa release it says: “A vacation of all records in which student-athletes competed while ineligible. The university must provide a written report containing the contests impacted to the NCAA media coordination and statistics staff within 14 days of the public release of the decision.”

Does this mean we have to vacate the wins during this time?
 
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Adam2014 said:
Tennessee football avoids bowl ban as NCAA hammers Jeremy Pruitt
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Pruitt's lawsuit to regain his severance takes a massive hit with this result. He did all that cheating and got only negative results from it. . . no increased wins from cheating, few high-profile recruits - if any, no mega-raise, no significant extension, no interest from other big-time programs, destroyed his NCAA reputation, murdered his employability, nuked his contract, and lost millions of $s! 😆 sorry for your luck and, based on reports about his personality, he deserved every bit of it and then some more.
 
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peaygolf said:
In Cold Blood (1967) ⭐ 7.9 | Biography, Crime, Drama
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I should've asked book/movie. . .

There was a really good one I read and I can't think of the name. . . it's pretty popular too. . . "The _______" . . . I think Sean Connery was in the movie version. . .

Anyway, "To Kill a Mockingbird" has to be #1, right?

Edit: wasn't Connery, it was Gene Hackman and the book/movie was "The Chamber"
 
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Orange. said:
I have seriously heard that the hold up is rival teams pressuring the NCAA, saying that it is "not fair" that we went from dogsh-t to #6, beating Bama, and Orange Bowl champions in two years. We were supposed to be punished. But instead we are prospering. They are striving with all their might to use the NCAA to do for them what they themselves can't do on the field. @LA Vol
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It's true the usual suspects have been lobbying to make UT the poster school for bad behavior that the NCAA needs to make clear will not be tolerated. They're hammering the narrative that UT gamed the system and should not be allowed to profit from its trickery-- which is likely why UT was nailed with a Level I Failure to Monitor instead of the Level II expected. If the NCAA could've charged Lack of Institutional Control, they would've-- but given the circumstances, that would have run an unacceptable risk of escalating legally. There really is no "friendly" in rivalry.
 
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Ace said:
I was talking with a P5 coach, he said teams like UT with organization like Spyre will clean up in portal. He told me of one P5 team that is shifting entire recruiting strategy to buying players through portal. He believes that HS signing will become less important in the next few years for bigger schools. They will have their choice of portal players
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This. This. This. Why crying over high school recruiting is just plain dumb.
 
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LA Vol said:
It's true the usual suspects have been lobbying to make UT the poster school for bad behavior that the NCAA needs to make clear will not be tolerated. They're hammering the narrative that UT gamed the system and should not be allowed to profit from its trickery-- which is likely why UT was nailed with a Level I Failure to Monitor instead of the Level II expected. If the NCAA could've charged Lack of Institutional Control, they would've-- but given the circumstances, that would have run an unacceptable risk of escalating legally. There really is no "friendly" in rivalry.
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That might backfire if they get caught cheating one day and everyone else knows they are too. Boy, that would be something lol
 
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Per the release from the NCAA, they claim the Level 1 infractions would typically merit a 2-year post-season ban but due to “exemplary cooperation” it was off the table.

RIP to the clown that said our leadership should have told the NCAA to pound sand. Danny and Donde could not have done a better job.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I should've asked book/movie. . .

There was a really good one I read and I can't think of the name. . . it's pretty popular too. . . "The _______" . . . I think Sean Connery was in the movie version. . .

Anyway, "To Kill a Mockingbird" has to be #1, right?

Edit: wasn't Connery, it was Gene Hackman and the book/movie was "The Chamber"
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My Cousin Vinny might be the most entertaining, but In Cold Blood and To Kill a Mockingbird are classics.
 
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matt_mccoy19 said:
So in the ncaa release it says: “A vacation of all records in which student-athletes competed while ineligible. The university must provide a written report containing the contests impacted to the NCAA media coordination and statistics staff within 14 days of the public release of the decision.”

Does this mean we have to vacate the wins during this time?
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I believe so. Someone mentioned that if we vacate all of Pruitt’s wins we’ll fall to 11 or 12 all time wins. Of course that’s with Pruitt’s exemplary win total of 15 or whatever it was.
 
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