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OldVol49vfl said:
How many of you saw the Knoxville news report where the Knox Sheriff's Dept. and UT police broke up the huge "block party" and made several arrests? The Sheriff's Dept. has already fired one officer and suspended 2 more for the way they "manhandled" a kid they arrested. I wonder how many of these characters were at the party the football players had. I know there are cops that do their job well but there are also a few bad apples that let their badge go to their head. We need to keep the good ones and throw the bad ones out. JMO
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More than one of them should have been fired. Thank God it was all caught on film so that it was very obvious that the young man was not mouthing off or resisting in any way. This is the second incident under this sheriff. An election is on the horizon for those who can vote in the area. Vote accordingly as you see fit.
 
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utvols88 said:
That gif made me lose respect for you. To pick that gif without Bert in the back seat is a crucial mistake IMO.
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rockytop25 said:
Praying for those in Alabama. Put the rivalry aside Volnation. This is much more important than a rivalry.
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Hunker down everybody in the path. Tornado warnings issued in the Chattanooga and Cleveland areas heading northeast toward Knox. May God provide his protection over all.
 
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Good QB talk, as of today, I think I could make a case for Worley, Dobbs and Riley all winning the job. Tough choice for Butch since they all bring something a little different to the table. I honestly think Dobbs has a legit chance unless they are planning on redshirting him though. To me, he seems to be a little more careful with the ball than Riley, but also has that dynamic that Justin doesn't have after seeing him break some big runs. So in summary, who the hell knows.

Also, saw this on twitter, possible free agent deal following the draft?

Mo Couch
@MoTrilla44: Indianapolis Colts don't sound bad at all!! #blessings
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ionaVOL said:
I'd definitely love for the Colts to take a flyer on Mo, hopefully he can make it on my favorite team, hell we drafted Montori and he is still on the team at the moment. Really hoping he can see tons of action this year

And I think Dobbs will start, Worley will still short arm throws, and Dobbs is better than Eorley at keeping the option.
Hopefully Dobbs has worked on his arm, and it seems he has with his play in the O/W game.

I haven't gave up on Fergs yet, he was my favorite out of all them, he had a rough O/W game, not all his fault but he can still make good for us
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ionaVOL said:
Good QB talk, as of today, I think I could make a case for Worley, Dobbs and Riley all winning the job. Tough choice for Butch since they all bring something a little different to the table. I honestly think Dobbs has a legit chance unless they are planning on redshirting him though. To me, he seems to be a little more careful with the ball than Riley, but also has that dynamic that Justin doesn't have after seeing him break some big runs. So in summary, who the hell knows.

Also, saw this on twitter, possible free agent deal following the draft?

Mo Couch
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On the Ferguson/Dobbs comparison, I don't think you can easily change a person's mental nature especially in and beyond their late teens. The mind works on it's own. It's designed that way. A person's awareness gives them control over their mind and then they can use it as a tool. Your mind is coded and it is what it is. You are who you are. If you think too much (this is the problem in my golf game) you tend to be inconsistent as hell. Only when you trust yourself to "get on the edge" will you have a good game or a good play.

Dobbs' TD run in the O&W game came on a busted play. If he could figure out a way to consistently play with the mindset he evidenced on that play he would probably be awesome but I don't think he's wired that way and that kind of wiring doesn't get changed easily. I think Riley's problem is more behavioral than nature. I like his nature but he's needs to develop an element of restraint. I think that's easier to do than to fundamentally change one's nature. I think they both have a shot but I think the challenge for each is fundamentally different.

Worley's has, imo, limited upside both in athleticism and skill sets, but he has developed a measure of restraint and his experience suggest that he's serviceable. He's not really the guy you're expecting to make the plays; you're looking to the other end of the pass or hand-off for someone to make a play, almost all of the time. He's at best an average manager for our offense and maybe, disappointingly for some of us, that's the best we'll be able to do this year. jmo.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
On the Ferguson/Dobbs comparison, I don't think you can easily change a person's mental nature especially in and beyond their late teens. The mind works on it's own. It's designed that way. A person's awareness gives them control over their mind and then they can use it as a tool. Your mind is coded and it is what it is. You are who you are. If you think too much (this is the problem in my golf game) you tend to be inconsistent as hell. Only when you trust yourself to "get on the edge" will you have a good game or a good play.

Dobbs' TD run in the O&W game came on a busted play. If he could figure out a way to consistently play with the mindset he evidenced on that play he would probably be awesome but I don't think he's wired that way and that kind of wiring doesn't get changed easily. I think Riley's problem is more behavioral than nature. I like his nature but he's needs to develop an element of restraint. I think that's easier to do than to fundamentally change one's nature. I think they both have a shot but I think the challenge for each is fundamentally different.

Worley's has, imo, limited upside both in athleticism and skill sets, but he has developed a measure of restraint and his experience suggest that he's serviceable. He's not really the guy you're expecting to make the plays; you're looking to the other end of the pass or hand-off for someone to make a play, almost all of the time. He's at best an average manager for our offense and maybe, disappointingly for some of us, that's the best we'll be able to do this year. jmo.
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Yeah, longest run from scrimmage by a QB since the Tee Martin era must have been a fluke too. :ermm:
 
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Vols4us said:
It was ridiculous. A reporter tried to interview him on the street today and he refused. This guy had been demoted in 2011 when he refused to follow orders as a sgt. in charge of a unit investigating a possible hostage/firearms situation at a house. SWAT had been called in and this bozo had his guys raid the house before they got there when he had been told to stay back.

Folks should not confuse KCSD with KPD officers. Big difference.
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I hope that SOB gets assault charges brought on him!

Also, what about the two that watched it happen and did nothing? I sure as heck hope they get punished too.

KCSD is also who broke up that football party where AJ, et al got arrested. Sorry for bringing up that dead horse to kick it, but just sayin'.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
On the Ferguson/Dobbs comparison, I don't think you can easily change a person's mental nature especially in and beyond their late teens. The mind works on it's own. It's designed that way. A person's awareness gives them control over their mind and then they can use it as a tool. Your mind is coded and it is what it is. You are who you are. If you think too much (this is the problem in my golf game) you tend to be inconsistent as hell. Only when you trust yourself to "get on the edge" will you have a good game or a good play.

Dobbs' TD run in the O&W game came on a busted play. If he could figure out a way to consistently play with the mindset he evidenced on that play he would probably be awesome but I don't think he's wired that way and that kind of wiring doesn't get changed easily. I think Riley's problem is more behavioral than nature. I like his nature but he's needs to develop an element of restraint. I think that's easier to do than to fundamentally change one's nature. I think they both have a shot but I think the challenge for each is fundamentally different.

Worley's has, imo, limited upside both in athleticism and skill sets, but he has developed a measure of restraint and his experience suggest that he's serviceable. He's not really the guy you're expecting to make the plays; you're looking to the other end of the pass or hand-off for someone to make a play, almost all of the time. He's at best an average manager for our offense and maybe, disappointingly for some of us, that's the best we'll be able to do this year. jmo.
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I actually understand exactly what you're saying here and I agree. I think we can be relatively successful this year with any three as our starting QB, but until we see a lot more from one of them I don't think we take the next step.

Absolutely huge this year for us to land an elite QB IMO, Gentry, Gibson, someone.
 
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NMVol said:
Yeah, longest run from scrimmage by a QB since the Tee Martin era must have been a fluke too. :ermm:
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Maybe. :) I mean by most accounts in that particular game he was the only one who showed up to play. The Oline wasn't there and we had difficulty in some cases catching the ball.

My point was if you think too much I think it significantly effects your consistency overall.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Maybe. :) I mean by most accounts in that particular game he was the only one who showed up to play. The Oline wasn't there and we had difficulty in some cases catching the ball.

My point was if you think too much I think it significantly effects your consistency overall.
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I don't buy it. Excelling academically does not necessarily equate to on the field decision making. Dobbs has experienced trial by fire. I am not counting him out. Who is really over-thinking here?
 
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As much as I'd love to see (IMO) the more talented Dobbs or Ferguson take the reigns for the next 3+ years, Worley is the guy. He has the most experience, big game stability, senior leadership, and is pretty talented in his own right. We don't know what we have on campus, but 3 QB's have had a year to take the job from him and can't do it. That speaks volumes to me.

What made Worley look so bad last year was timing. His timing with the receivers was terrible. With this offense, we need him to keep the ball on occasion just to keep the D honest. If he can improve on both of these things, I see Andy Kelly-ish leadership and serviceability.
 
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NMVol said:
I don't buy it. Excelling academically does not necessarily equate to on the field decision making. Dobbs has experienced trial by fire. I am not counting him out. Who is really over-thinking here?
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Without inviting an argument I don't think excelling academically has anything to do with it. I wouldn't count him out either.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Without inviting an argument I don't think excelling academically has anything to do with it. I wouldn't count him out either.
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No worries. Wasn't sure on what you were basing your take on his habits. I like his wheels. He seems decisive running. Had some nice throws in the spring game. I am aware that he was throwing into the two deep.
 
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unioncityvol said:
Worley wire to wire hopefully. Dobbs Red Shirts and he and Ferg get another year to grow and prepare for a QB battle in 15. If this happens it means Worley steps up and has a good year and I pray that's what happens. We all should. Ferg should handle mop up this year so Dobbs can RS. Then two Soph battle it out next yr and Gentry or Gibson RS.
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This. Ferguson handles the mop up and fills in if Worley is injured. Dobbs redshirts and the real QB battle between Ferg and Dobbs happens in 2015 with both of them as RS So. At that point whoever wins out is gravy IMO because the second guy is a backup that you don't have to worry about IMO. GBO! Yea rum.
 
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