Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XI

#11,929
#11,929
Ron Swanson said:
Caption time...

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"Was that you?"

"Yes"

"Now you know what The Swamp smells like."
 
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#11,930
#11,930
Catbone said:
Gotta have a QB that can get it to them ;)
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This series of articles from the Butch's 2010 season at Cincinnati suggests that in our offense we need a specific type of QB to make it work. The author is comparing the Brian Kelly offense to Butch's and suggests there is not really a lot of difference other than Butch seems to focus on the intermediate passing game where Kelly was a live or die by the deep vertical attack.

Interesting read for anyone who hasn't seen it yet:

Jones on the hand does have an ideal QB type. I said it yesterday, and I will say it again now. Dan Lefevour is the guy for Jones offensive system. He is big, has a strong arm and though he is not a burner, he is eminently capable of defeating a defense with his legs. If you look at the guys who Jones has recruited to the program as QB's in his two classes they all have elements of the Rust Belt Tebow in them. Munchie Legaux has a big arm and is an explosive athlete, in the 2010 class there are Stephen Weatherford and Patrick Coyne who are very much in that LeFevour mold. Patrick Coyne might be the best bet to reprise the Rust Belt Tebow motif if my hunches are correct. Coyne is a devastating runner who has an absolute cannon for an arm.

In the end the differences between Kelly and Jones and the representative offensive schemes and game plans isn't that big. There are some key differences in the design and execution of them, sure. But the real difference between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly might come down to one position. In my opinion Jones needs a very specific type of Quarterback to make his system really fire on all cylinders. He needs that mobile QB with a big arm to work out of the pocket in the passing game. Kelly on the other hand can make do with just about any QB. How many coaches can make due with whatever they have on hand at the most important position on the field? In truth that is the only really major difference between them. And luckily for me I have the perfect picture to express the differences between Brian Kelly and Butch Jones.
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The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 1 - Down The Drive

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 2 - Down The Drive

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 3 - Down The Drive
 
#11,932
#11,932
ChattaTNVol said:
This series of articles from the Butch's 2010 season at Cincinnati suggests that in our offense we need a specific type of QB to make it work. The author is comparing the Brian Kelly offense to Butch's and suggests there is not really a lot of difference other than Butch seems to focus on the intermediate passing game where Kelly was a live or die by the deep vertical attack.

Interesting read for anyone who hasn't seen it yet:




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The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 1 - Down The Drive

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 2 - Down The Drive

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 3 - Down The Drive
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PC owns Mac tho
 
#11,933
#11,933
ChattaTNVol said:
This series of articles from the Butch's 2010 season at Cincinnati suggests that in our offense we need a specific type of QB to make it work. The author is comparing the Brian Kelly offense to Butch's and suggests there is not really a lot of difference other than Butch seems to focus on the intermediate passing game where Kelly was a live or die by the deep vertical attack.

Interesting read for anyone who hasn't seen it yet:




Kelly_and_Jones.jpg


The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 1 - Down The Drive

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 2 - Down The Drive

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 3 - Down The Drive
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Spot on again. Everything I read about the Jones offense when he was hired as well as the 7 or 8 games I saw when he was at CMU and Cincy said 10-20 yard pass with a quick, strong RB between the tackles. He will do stuff like run a 4 -5 wide streak and have them hit the slot or TE down the middle. He will wheel route the RB, TE and motion WR. He used slants, crossing and digs. Kelly will do more dink and dunk when he isn't going deep on a sideline, post or go route.

Which makes it really puzzling to me why Jake called what he called last season. I guess they had no confidence going with more of the offense and did not want it all out there until they got the horses. That's the only thing I can come up with as to why they didn't go with some of their staples of the past. It really surprised me it was that vanilla.

He had more success when he used the agile pro style QB as compared to the DT. He had both at Cincy. To me the offensive scheme screams Ferguson, possibly Dobbs, and on a recruit basis it would be Gentry. The QB needs to be pass first, but able to run. He has recruited so well for this offense so far. Get the ball to the playmakers in space and watch what happens.
 
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#11,940
#11,940
On Malik Brown...

As we noted in the war room a couple of weeks ago, he has broken his wrist three times and hasn't been able to get healthy. I think there's a real chance that he takes a medical and gives up football.
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-Hubbs
 
#11,944
#11,944
BaldBiker said:
I can't take anything you say seriously until the "REAL" avi comes back.

I'm sarting a petition about this!!!!
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Go to the FF and tell them it's a petition to fahr Butch and you will have plenty of signatures. Then for good measure go over to the BBF and tell them it's a petition to fahr Donnie and your petition will probably explode from to many signatures.

On a personal note I will sign the "Bring Back Dust10's REAL Avi" petition as the current avi makes me sad. :cray:
 
#11,945
#11,945
glichtenwalter said:
Go to the FF and tell them it's a petition to fahr Butch and you will have plenty of signatures. Then for good measure go over to the BBF and tell them it's a petition to fahr Donnie and your petition will probably explode from to many signatures.

On a personal note I will sign the "Bring Back Dust10's REAL Avi" petition as the current avi makes me sad. :cray:
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Don't give in Dust10! USA USA USA! Go Dempsey!
 
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