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#203
#203
SSVol said:
Was just having a similar discussion with my son regarding the 'wisdom of age' vs the 'vision of youth'. The young have vision precisely because they have not yet proven to themselves what can't or shouldn't be done. The older I get, the less willing I become to test the boundaries, because i have done so enough times to convince myself they exist for a reason. The key to growing old gracefully is in knowing where preference ends and principle begins.
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I had a much less eloquent conversation about this with my oldest just this week. I hope I explained it well enough. If the topic comes up again I may just use this.
 
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UTProf said:
They actually did try when the whole DJ Fluker scandal that Mo got nabbed in broke. Saban was asked questions in his press conference, got mad, shot fire out of his eyes, said "Appreciate your interest in the game" and stormed out of the room. It was amusing to watch.

But you're right that they don't hold him accountable for squat and when they do challenge him pulls that kinda thing and they just get cowed into submission.
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Unfortunately, it's inherent to the nature of a college beat writer in Tuscaloosa; they have to kiss the ring in order to do their jobs.

If Finebaum didn't suckle at the teet of Alabama, he'd be much more entertaining, maybe even a little likeable the. As evidenced by his interview with JF, he's not afraid to ask tough questions nor let them off the hook when they provide a scripted answer.

WriterVol said:
I think the funniest part is Nick Saban trying to convince people he cares about injured players.

It sounds like the "captain of the ship" is showing some fear:

Former Dolphin says Nick Saban walked over convulsing player - CBS News
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It's about keeping Malzahn from running down his throat every year, and everyone knows it. There's finally a coach who has found his Achilles heel so his solution is to call his buddy, Mark Emmert and change the rules and eliminate the threat.
 
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Vols4us said:
Thanks for the back up. :good!:

Now that I am an old codger I hate the stereotype of old means "against change". There are every bit as many young people against change as older people. In business I led the charge to stay current while the younger ones did not want to change what they were doing. I love the gray jerseys and wear top end Nike Flyknit running shoes. I avoid mall walking like the plaque - need to be outside. Look in my golf bag and you will find no clubs older that 2011 models. Old or young - it is all in the mind of the person. As the body ages you learn to adapt - which involves change.

But if they mean being old means you refuse to violate principles - guilty. Most older people have learned that is when you screw up.
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I wasn't really trying to bring up an age discussion. It's a stereotype. I believe age is not a number but an attitude (hence the sandbox comment). I think Adams probably frowned and griped about hemorrhoids when he was in diapers. He never has anything positive to say unless it is about how it used to be back when _____. I despise that attitude and thinks it makes him come across like a wrinkled curmudgeon.
 
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jman9865 said:
I wasn't really trying to bring up an age discussion. It's a stereotype. I believe age is not a number but an attitude (hence the sandbox comment). I think Adams probably frowned and griped about hemorrhoids when he was in diapers. He never has anything positive to say unless it is about how it used to be back when _____. I despise that attitude and thinks it makes him come across like a wrinkled curmudgeon.
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No offense taken - you made a good point. Totally agree on Adams. I really don't care for his columns or listening to him in person. He is arrogant without having accomplished anything in his career but stirring the pot and being divisive. He has blown off his own talent. I wish he would retire or leave because McElroy will never get rid of him since he likes to stir it as well. And they wonder why subscriptions are tanking! Amazing.

The posts that I and the older in age object to is the stuff like the uni change or trashing the 'down in front' when standing at the games or the music is too loud or stinks. Junk like that. They say the gray or blue hairs will hate the new uni, or screw the old people that don't want us to stand, or screw them if they object to wearing ear plugs because we like the music and the louder the better. Derogatory stuff lumping folks in a category and then dismissing them as if they don't matter. The old folks are paying the freight over there and we all bring something special to support our Vols no matter the age. However, some of the curmudgeons should also shut their mouths and get along with young folks as well. Without the young the game dies.

:hi:
 
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SSVol said:
Was just having a similar discussion with my son regarding the 'wisdom of age' vs the 'vision of youth'. The young have vision precisely because they have not yet proven to themselves what can't or shouldn't be done. The older I get, the less willing I become to test the boundaries, because i have done so enough times to convince myself they exist for a reason. The key to growing old gracefully is in knowing where preference ends and principle begins.
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:good!: Very well stated and very true. Hope it takes root in your son.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
Unfortunately, it's inherent to the nature of a college beat writer in Tuscaloosa; they have to kiss the ring in order to do their jobs.

If Finebaum didn't suckle at the teet of Alabama, he'd be much more entertaining, maybe even a little likeable the. As evidenced by his interview with JF, he's not afraid to ask tough questions nor let them off the hook when they provide a scripted answer.



It's about keeping Malzahn from running down his throat every year, and everyone knows it. There's finally a coach who has found his Achilles heel so his solution is to call his buddy, Mark Emmert and change the rules and eliminate the threat.
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You hit it. This is exactly where the news media should go with this if they wanted to blow his cover publicly.
 
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JCLawyerVol said:
Is that why I keep trying to get home in 2 on 8? You'd think I'd be old enough to have learned my lesson by now. Right fairway, lay up to 125, hit it on and 2 putt. Haha.
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Testosterone - plain and simple. Watch this! It's genetic and cannot be changed. lulz.

When you make a double eagle on a par 5 from 219 yards - you never question that decision ever again. It has been answered and it simply does not matter that you might bogey the hole forever after if you keep going for it. It was the best shot I ever hit and the worst shot I ever hit to help my overall game.
 
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Vols4us said:
Testosterone - plain and simple. Watch this! It's genetic and cannot be changed. lulz.

When you make a double eagle on a par 5 from 219 yards - you never question that decision ever again. It has been answered and it simply does not matter that you might bogey the hole forever after if you keep going for it. It was the best shot I ever hit and the worst shot I ever hit to help my overall game.
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# 18 (par 5 with island green) at my club was described by Byron Nelson as the toughest 7 par he had ever designed...

Does not keep me from pulling out my 3 wood and going for it if I hit a good drive...low percentage, absolutely, but when I have made in 2 (rarely) I can brag about it for months :)
I am not very good btw
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
# 18 (par 5 with island green) at my club was described by Byron Nelson as the toughest 7 par he had ever designed...

Does not keep me from pulling out my 3 wood and going for it if I hit a good drive...low percentage, absolutely, but when I have made in 2 (rarely) I can brag about it for months :)
I am not very good btw
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I'll usually have an 80 something going but those one or two holes mysteriously make it end up at 107
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Sick, sick story here.

Darren Sharper charged with rape in California - ESPN

Good looking dude, (no homo), famous, wealthy... he should easily be able to meet up with the ladies, and he resorts to this? Innocent till proven guilty, but dude... :no:
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Rape is about power and control. Consensual sex doesn't give them that power and control. That's why guys that otherwise fall into the category of having it all -- the world at their fingertips, the charm, money, and ability to get all kinds of beautiful women -- commit rape. It's not about plain ole sex to them.
 
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UTProf said:
Rape is about power and control. Consensual sex doesn't give them that power and control. That's why guys that otherwise fall into the category of having it all -- the world at their fingertips, the charm, money, and ability to get all kinds of beautiful women -- commit rape. It's not about plain ole sex to them.
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Yep, I agree, which is why I said it is so sick.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Yep, I agree, which is why I said it is so sick.
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Sick and very sad too. Those women will have to deal with trust and trauma issues for life.

FWIW, I wasn't trying to imply you didn't get that - just adding on to your comment. Cases like this always make me wonder what in the hell happened to the person along the way to turn them into a predator so under the control of their compulsion for power and control that they would do this another human being. When they're rich and famous it really highlights how much they're willing to risk in order to satisfy that sick compulsion.
 
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UTProf said:
Sick and very sad too. Those women will have to deal with trust and trauma issues for life.

FWIW, I wasn't trying to imply you didn't get that - just adding on to your comment. Cases like this always make me wonder what in the hell happened to the person along the way to turn them into a predator so under the control of their compulsion for power and control that they would do this another human being. When they're rich and famous it really highlights how much they're willing to risk in order to satisfy that sick compulsion.
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I know, and my response was not meant to be cheeky, just clarification. I recognized the whole exchange had that "unclear message board tone" where you couldn't tell, but it's all good.
 
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