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DD4ME said:
Does anyone have the coach list from the poster that knows the search firm guy?
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Found it
From The Vin Man. Went back and read his messages and he seems to have legit search firm info. Doesn't mean we pick any of them but should give us a clue to plan H.

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Sorry. Here’s the preliminary list that I was given a few weeks back. This is one of three people who will be putting together a list, so the names will likely change.

Plan A
1. Chip Kelly
2. Mike Gundy
3. Dan Mullen
4. Kyle Whittingham
5. Jeff Brohm
6. Greg Schiano

Plan B
1. Chad Morris
2. Philip Montgomery
3. Scott Satterfield
4. Mike Bobo
5. Neal Brown
6. Mike Norvell

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FWIW…I saw the early list of candidates that Currie wants to look at. It’s a solid list of coaches. The approach will be to rank them and start reaching out to their agents to find out who’s willing to listen, what it’s going to take for them to leave/accept, and see if they can put together a package that is a win-win. I will tell you that Gruden’s name is on the list, but the advice they’re getting is to not pursue him. The reasons why…coaches who have spent a majority of their time in the NFL rarely succeed in college. The rare exceptions are Pete Carroll and Barry Switzer. You can say Harbough, but he started off as a college coach at Stanford. For every 2 or 3 that have done well, there are 18 others like Chan Gailey that have failed. You must play the odds with this hire. The second piece Gruden hasn’t coached in a long time. Why do you think that’s the case? The feedback I was given is he has a reputation of being a very difficult coach to work for. This comes from his former players and assistant coaches. Plus, he really hasn’t had to work hard in several years, so nobody knows how he’ll do on the recruiting trail, meet & greet/roadshows, etc. For someone to post that it’s 98% likely that the Gruden deal is done is simply not true.

There are a handful of other coaches on the list that would be a much better match if they’re willing to listen. Most of them are head coaches, but there are a few OC’s on there as well. What I can tell you is Fuente, Venables, Kiffin, Stoops, Peterson, Patterson, Norvell, Miles, and Jimbo are not being considered at this time. That can obviously change. If we can land one of the A list coaches, I think most of the Vol nation will be happy. The X factor are the other coaching vacancies that could open up this year, including UCLA, Nebraska, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and possibly USC. That doesn’t include the obvious ones at Ole Miss, Oregon State, and possibly Washington State if Leach follows his ex. AD to Nebraska, but the fan base there are foaming at the mouth to get Scott Frost.

Prior to this search, Tennessee had a contract with a search firm out of Atlanta called Parker Executive Search, but they found a loop hole in the contract and have severed ties. They have one guy who is extremely well thought in the coaching search space that Currie has engaged as a trusted adviser. The real insiders can verify this.
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Kingston Vol said:
Just my opinion but you don't fire Kevin Sumlin to hire Chad Morris. You could sell firing Butch Jones for him though.
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I don't think Sumlin is all that good. Outside of the one good season he had with Manziel he really hasn't done anything significant. He just got smoked by a less talented Mississippi State team and his teams tend to fall apart in the second half of the season.
 
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DD4ME said:
Found it
From The Vin Man. Went back and read his messages and he seems to have legit search firm info. Doesn't mean we pick any of them but should give us a clue to plan H.
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Yeah hopefully Currie will tell whoever made that list up to go fly a kite. The only proven, realistic candidate on the A part of the list is Mullen. Brohm is intriguing but I'd still need to be sold on him. Kelly would be awesome but there's been next to no smoke about him coming here.
 
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I'm just not as sold on Gruden as much as what appears to be 90% of the fanbase is. I mean I think he would be successful, but in no way do I think it's an automatic. When Meyer, Saban and Franklin went to their respective schools, you all but knew they were going to eat. I don't think the same would be said for Gruden.
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
Yeah hopefully Currie will tell whoever made that list up to go fly a kite. The only proven, realistic candidate on the A part of the list is Mullen. Brohm is intriguing but I'd still need to be sold on him. Kelly would be awesome but there's been next to no smoke about him coming here.
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You know what is sad? In another post he stated that our prior (and well respected) search firm severed ties with us, potentially because we didn't follow their advice and our selections sucked.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Speaking of the Gruden Thread Movie -

Back in 2012 in the official Gruden threads we had some 150,000 comments and views in the 8,000,000 neighborhood. The threads took off on 10/24 and averaged a full thread every 4 days up until the last 2 weeks then it was 2 days for a full thread. The last thread ended on 12/7. We were using higher post count threads back then but still we started this time around on 10/15 with our first full thread and have racked up 75,000 comments and over 5,000,000 views in less than 3 weeks and the last 3 threads have filled up in a single day. I've done some back of the envelop math and by my analysis Volnation participation ratings for official Gruden threads in 2017 are up 12.5% over the 2012 original blockbuster series while viewership is up almost 55%. I think we can attribute much of that increase in ratings to the addition of a few new cast members. jmo.

In any event evidence suggests that the sequel is significantly outperforming the original so obviously we should all expect the furture part 3 installment to already be in the works.

Episode I = The Fantasy
Episode II = The Battle for The Rock
Episode III = The Reign of The Grude
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Man, when you break something down you do a great job! I’m a little upset there wasn’t a chart or spreadsheet but still some cool info. Thanks :hi:
 
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People in the Gruden thread loving JAV post on TOS. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't to haha
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
I'm just not as sold on Gruden as much as what appears to be 90% of the fanbase is. I mean I think he would be successful, but in no way do I think it's an automatic. When Meyer, Saban and Franklin went to their respective schools, you all but knew they were going to eat. I don't think the same would be said for Gruden.
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I get it. But one reason I like JG is because I think he unites the fan base. Which I think we desperately need.
 
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DD4ME said:
You know what is sad? In another post he stated that our prior (and well respected) search firm severed ties with us, potentially because we didn't follow their advice and our selections sucked.
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I went to that search firms site and you know who endorses them:
Iowa State - Matt Campbell
USF - Frost
UF - Frost lol
 
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DD4ME said:
You know what is sad? In another post he stated that our prior (and well respected) search firm severed ties with us, potentially because we didn't follow their advice and our selections sucked.
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I'd have probably severed ties with Tennessee as well after they hire Derek Dooley and Butch Jones lol
 
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