Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLVII

[Memphisvol87]

Les Miles is being considered as much as Greg Schiano by other teams. No. Thanks.

To be honest nobody else considering us to come coach here, there is a flip side to that argument as well.

 

[drylo]

Is there anyone else who just doesn’t even care at this point? I think I just want us to hire Tee and be done with it.

We are gonna screw it up because we are going out there with the mindset of not paying over market value even though our position makes it where we would have to pay extra for a good coach. So we are gonna hire a lame for $4m and then end up paying him $20m for 3 years work cause he’s getting fired.

Agreed. Just give Brohm what he wants. The thing I don’t get at this point is, in the grand scheme of things, the money we are talking about for these guys is nothing. It is well worth another $10m to have a winning program again, and pretty much anybody you hire (except maybe a Miles or Petrino type) will want a big buyout, so it’s going to be expensive to go with an uninspiring hire that can’t get it done anyway. Brohm has put 4 years as a HC on film, and it is very good. Ideally we’d have another year or two of track record at Purdue, but it’s not in the cards right now. Just go get him.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Given the list of coaches we're picking from (and PLEASE stop saying "oh just throw a bunch of money at x") it seems obvious to me we're not going to be competitive for the next two seasons. Maybe 6-6 next year and 8-4 the year after.

That would be much more palatable to me if the team is run by Tee and we're signing top 5 classes. Also, Tee would be earning his stripes as a HC during that time.

 

[InVOLuntary]

2 is the most concerning. Basically saying our athletic director was a known problem in the coaching community before he created this circus.

And we chose him over two highly respected candidates right here in our backyard.

 

[butchna]

I guess he wasn't part of the search firm then right? Right.

The one that included Fulmer? Don’t know. Never heard any OFFICIAL announcement of who was on there. In any case, none of them MADE the hire...that’s on Currie. Ask yourself this: Peyton hates this man who put a fatwa on his brother’s knees to the point of cussing him out face to face. He’s on a committee that discusses the individual names and supposedly “signs off” on Schiano. How was he looking out for HIMSELF if he assured them he wouldn’t protest publicly? He’s thinking of his school over his own personal distaste of the man.

You’re on a message board.

 

[volssam]

We are all sitting here saying “I don’t care who it is now. Just hire someone.”

Yeah this is going to end well

.

 

[RockyTop85]

Les Miles is the Rick Barnes+ hire.

He can recruit lights out.

He’s a fan favorite.

Players love him.

He developed 21 of 22 starting positions well at LSU.

I know his QBs were bad but a year plus off to reflect and he may see what he did wrong there.

Yeah he makes some weird end-of-game decisions but he still wins, a lot.

 

[ionaVOL]

Given the list of coaches we're picking from (and PLEASE stop saying "oh just throw a bunch of money at x") it seems obvious to me we're not going to be competitive for the next two seasons. Maybe 6-6 next year and 8-4 the year after.

That would be much more palatable to me if the team is run by Tee and we're signing top 5 classes. Also, Tee would be earning his stripes as a HC during that time.

Co-sign. Just please bring in some veteran coaches for the staff, Les Miles for instance. IMO a few guys like that would be perfect "consultants" for Tee to have in his corner.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Given the list of coaches we're picking from (and PLEASE stop saying "oh just throw a bunch of money at x") it seems obvious to me we're not going to be competitive for the next two seasons. Maybe 6-6 next year and 8-4 the year after.

That would be much more palatable to me if the team is run by Tee and we're signing top 5 classes. Also, Tee would be earning his stripes as a HC during that time.

Anyway we could throw a bunch of money at T to come as OC under say a Les Miles?

 

[snowvols]

I like Miles, but his team's couldn't score his last few years despite having ridiculous amounts of NFL players. It was like paint dry watching that offense.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Les Miles is the Rick Barnes+ hire.

He can recruit lights out.

He’s a fan favorite.

Players love him.

He developed 21 of 22 starting positions well at LSU.

I know his QBs were bad but a year plus off to reflect and he may see what he did wrong there.

Yeah he makes some weird end-of-game decisions but he still wins, a lot.

I think it's our best option at this moment.

 

[volssam]

Les Miles is the Rick Barnes+ hire.

He can recruit lights out.

He’s a fan favorite.

Players love him.

He developed 21 of 22 starting positions well at LSU.

I know his QBs were bad but a year plus off to reflect and he may see what he did wrong there.

Yeah he makes some weird end-of-game decisions but he still wins, a lot.

And he would make sure our field/grass is top notch

 

[RockyTop85]

Anyway we could throw a bunch of money at T to come as OC under say a Les Miles?

I don’t think Tee is laterallinf to UT when we’re less stable and all of our former players are calling for him to be head coach.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I like Miles, but his team's couldn't score his last few years despite having ridiculous amounts of NFL players. It was like paint dry watching that offense.

Hire a great OC and get out of his way.

 

[bignewt]

Add Manny Diaz

And Kevin Steele.

 

[ionaVOL]

Anyway we could throw a bunch of money at T to come as OC under say a Les Miles?

Tee HC and Miles as Associate HC/OC. Would help with Miles issues developing at QB and then grab someone like Steele for DC. I'd say that's about as good as we could hope for at this point.

 

[Big Sun]

Who would want to come work for these *******s? Srsly?

 

[JacketVol]

Moron is used for someone who is a dimwit

Moran is a VN colloquialism used as a term of endearment for a fellow poster.

Please try to keep up. You are acting like a moron when you should aspire to be a Moran.

This guy gets it.

 

[butchna]

And Kevin Steele.

You were here during his tenure at Baylor? :huh:

Edit: Oh? As DC? My bad.

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

Just connecting the dots, this is what I think is currently happening.

Brohm is currently 1
Morris is 1b
I think Brohm has expressed very little interest and we are coming back at him with more money. Will still say no IMO.

I also think Morris has told us he is waiting on what happens with A&M and we won’t know that until Sunday after Jimbo makes a choice.

If it goes past that it’s either Tee or Les IMO.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

I'm pretty sure the Haslam family will not sign off on Tee. Until someone overrides them, nothing will change.

 

[RockyTopInBham]

Chad Morris - HC
Kevin Steele - DC

Winning.

Why does everyone believe Kevin Steele would come here as DC when he's one game away from being in the playoff as DC at Auburn?

 

[volssam]

If Taggart, Jimbo, and Brohm are out , just sign Tee up. It isn't that hard. Goodness.

 

[tnmarktx]

The one that included Fulmer? Don’t know. Never heard any OFFICIAL announcement of who was on there. In any case, none of them MADE the hire...that’s on Currie. Ask yourself this: Peyton hates this man who put a fatwa on his brother’s knees to the point of cussing him out face to face. He’s on a committee that discusses the individual names and supposedly “signs off” on Schiano. How was he looking out for HIMSELF if he assured them he wouldn’t protest publicly? He’s thinking of his school over his own personal distaste of the man.

You’re on a message board.

I don't think nobody is trying to make you not be a Peyton fan. I think it just surprises people that he would be behind such a terrible coach regardless if he is a terrible human being or not. I would think that Peyton has a wealth of football knowledge, maybe I'm wrong. As far as having loyalty to him, Tee, or Fulmer, I want them to hire a good coach and at least a decent human being. I don't care if he's a "Tennessee guy" at all.

 

[RockyTop85]

I think it's our best option at this moment.

My feeling is that, if nothing else, he lends some stability and even if he doesn’t win he leaves the program in better shape than he left it.

Orgeron is winning at LSU I’m possibly the toughest division in college football, following Miles. Clearly he left them in a good situation.