Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

[The Breakerboy]

Try waiting for SOMEBODY as a change-up...instant grits man!

What really good RB have you really had to wait that long to show promise? Not be a complete back but to show potential.

 

[Ericvol2096]

Now here is our VOLS...much better experience and talent IMO just looking at raw data from an impartial site with projected depth charts.

Tennessee 2 Deep Roster - http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/tennessee/91993Offense
Wr –4* Jr, 4* SO, 4* SO starters, 4* SR 3* SR 3*SO
TE –3* SR starter, 3* SR back up
T – 3* JR, 5* SO starters, 3* SR, 3* So back ups
C – 4* SR Starter, 3* SR back up
G – 5* FR, 4* JR starters, 4* So 4* SO back ups
RB – 3* JR starter, 4* FR Back up
QB – 4* JR starter 4* FR backup

Defense
DE- 5* Jr, 4* SO starters, 5* JR 3* SO back up
DT- 5* Jr, 3* SR starters, 4* JR 3* JR back ups
LB – 4* JR 4* SO starter, 3* SR 4* SO back ups
NB – 4* JR starter, 3* SO Back Up
CB – 4* Sr 4* SR starters, 4* So 3* SR back ups
S – 4* SR 4* SO starters, 3* JR 4* SR back ups

Totals
Offense starters – 2 5*, 6 4*’s, 3 3* (average grade –JR)
Offense backups – 5 4*, 6 3* (average grade -JR)
Defense starters – 2 5*, 8 4*s, 1 3* (average grade JR)
Defense backups – 1 5*, 4 4*’s, 6 3*’s (average grade JR)

After some research, per Rivals ratings here is FL's two deep broken down.

TN and GA coming.

Florida 2 Deep Roster - http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/florida/90498

Offense
Wr –4* Jr, 4* SR, 4* SO starters, Three 4* Back ups
TE –4* SR starter, 3* JR back up
T – 3* SO, 5* JR starters, 3* So, 4* So back ups
C – 2* SO transfer Starter, 3* JR back up
G – U/R JR, 3* JR starters, 3* So 3* SO back ups
RB – 4* JR starter, 4* So Back up
QB – 4* FR or 4* Transfer

Defense
DE- 5* Jr, 3* SO starters, 2* JR 4* SR back ups
DT- 4* Jr, 3* Jr starters, 4* So 4* SO back ups
LB – 3* SO 3* SO 3* SO Starters, U/R Senior 3* Jr 3* SO back ups (WOOF)
CB – 4* Sr 4* So starters, 4* So 2* SO back ups
S – 4* SR 4* SR starters, 3* So 3* SO back ups

Totals
Offense starters – 1 5*, 6 4*’s, 2 3*, 1 2*, 1 U/R (average grade JR) -
Offense backups – 6 4*, 5 3* (average grade SO)
Defense starters – 1 5*, 5 4*s, 5 3*s (average grade JR)
Defense backups – 4 4*’s, 4 3*’s, 2 2*’s, 1 U/R (average grade SO)

Here is the Dawgs. Interesting to look at. Their D talent is not that imposing surprisingly, but their starting unit on D is very experienced. Both back up units are not surprisingly young but the offense has a lot of talent.

Georgia 2 Deep Roster - http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/tennessee/91993

Offense
Wr –5* Jr, 4* SR, 4* SO starters, 3* JR 3* JR 4*FR
TE –4* SO starter, 4* SR back up
T – 4* SR, 3* SR starters, 5* FR, 4* JR back ups
C – 3* JR Starter, None (Starting Guard Listed as back up)
G – 4* SR, 3* FR starters, 4* So U/R* SO back ups
RB– 4* SR starter, 5* SR Back up
QB – 5* SO starter 5* FR backup

Defense
DE- 4* Jr, 4* SR starters, 4* JR 3* SO back up
DT- 5* Jr, 3* SR starters, 4* SO 3* JR back ups
LB – 4* JR 4* JR, 3* SR starter, 3* SR 3* FR, 4* FR back ups
CB – 4* Sr 3* SR starters, 3* So 4* FR back ups
S – 3* SR 3* SR starters, 3* JR 4* FR back ups

Totals
Offense starters – 2 5*, 6 4*’s, 3 3* (average grade –JR)
Offense backups – 3 5*’s, 4 4*, 2 3*, 2 U/R (average grade -SO)
Defense starters – 1 5*, 5 4*s, 5 3* (average grade SR)
Defense backups –5 4*’s, 6 3*’s (average grade SO)

 

[jave36]

Pope

Really excited about him.

 

[butchna]

What really good RB have you really had to wait that long to show promise? Not be a complete back but to show potential.

In our history? What's the sample size. Most have had the OPPORTUNITY to show it early. Maybe Tony Thompson? Not predicting great things for this kid, but writing him off because he didn't dominate in the few snaps available is snap judgement in liquid form. Hurd doesn't self-destruct last season and what would be the ruling sentiment on Kelly? Hasn't shown anything threads galore. Truth's out there if you can wait for it.

 

[butchna]

Really excited about him.

Based on WHAT?!? :scare: Sorry caught up in the spirit. :hi:

 

[The Breakerboy]

In our history? What's the sample size. Most have had the OPPORTUNITY to show it early. Maybe Tony Thompson? Not predicting great things for this kid, but writing him off because he didn't dominate in the few snaps available is snap judgement in liquid form. Hurd doesn't self-destruct last season and what would be the ruling sentiment on Kelly? Hasn't shown anything threads galore. Truth's out there if you can wait for it.

I kinda liked Kelly after the Kentucky game his FRESHMAN year....

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Crazy legs is a beast. I can't wait to see what he can do this year.

 

[chavisut]

Of course, when it happens it is upsetting, but I always include an unexpected loss in my predictions for the season. Every team loses at least one game they shouldn't every year.

From Bama, to Ohio State, to this year's CFB Champ Clemson; every team loses to someone they shouldn't and I believe it would be acceptable to anticipate the same from us. If Butch was capable of keeping UT from losing any games we weren't supposed to every year, that would make him the best coach in CFB by far.

For those reasons, I predict a 9-3 season. We lose to Bama, we lose a toss-up game (UGA, LSU), and we lose one we shouldn't (UK, USC, Gtech).

I wanna see more we shouldn't.

 

[jave36]

Based on WHAT?!? :scare: Sorry caught up in the spirit. :hi:

Film from HS and measurables. Fils-Aime never looked as promising to me.

 

[butchna]

I kinda liked Kelly after the Kentucky game his FRESHMAN year....

Several of us did...by your current criteria, you would have meh'd it. Had 4.1 yards per carry...same as Fil-Aime. But had 40 attempts vs 14. Stay consistent San Diego.

 

[butchna]

Film from HS and measurables. Fils-Aime never looked as promising to me.

So?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

From his HS tape Carlton looked like a speedster. So far tho that speed hasn't translated to the SEC

 

[butchna]

From his HS tape Carlton looked like a speedster. So far tho that speed hasn't translated to the SEC

And he's had 14 opportunities to display it.

 

[ionaVOL]

I get that you can't predict how Fils-Aime career will play out with 100% certainty at this point. But does anyone think he will ever crack 100 carries in a season? 75? 50? IMO he will prove to be a depth player for us and will definitely have a role, but barring significant injuries I don't think he ever approaches 100 carries or anything like 600-800 yards in a season, JMO.

 

[butchna]

I get that you can't predict how Fils-Aime career will play out with 100% certainty at this point. But does anyone think he will ever crack 100 carries in a season? 75? 50? IMO he will prove to be a depth player for us and will definitely have a role, but barring significant injuries I don't think he ever approaches 100 carries or anything like 600-800 yards in a season, JMO.

Ok.

 

[ionaVOL]

Ok.

You seem to be stuck on defending him no matter what. Do you predict he's going to be an impact player for us? I'm saying no, what's your opinion?

 

[volfanCLT]

You seem to be stuck on defending him no matter what. Do you predict he's going to be an impact player for us? I'm saying no, what's your opinion?

It sounds like his opinion is it's way too early.

Several are writing him off 14 carries into his career. 14.

He was undersized coming in and needed to add weight. He's also been dealing with nagging injuries. He's not saying he's going to be a stud, just that he's not ready to say he's a bust after a minuscule sample size.

 

[Ericvol2096]

Here is the Dawgs. Interesting to look at. Their D talent is not that imposing surprisingly, but their starting unit on D is very experienced. Both back up units are not surprisingly young but the offense has a lot of talent.

Georgia 2 Deep Roster - http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/tennessee/91993

Offense
Wr –5* Jr, 4* SR, 4* SO starters, 3* JR 3* JR 4*FR
TE –4* SO starter, 4* SR back up
T – 4* SR, 3* SR starters, 5* FR, 4* JR back ups
C – 3* JR Starter, None (Starting Guard Listed as back up)
G – 4* SR, 3* FR starters, 4* So U/R* SO back ups
RB– 4* SR starter, 5* SR Back up
QB – 5* SO starter 5* FR backup

Defense
DE- 4* Jr, 4* SR starters, 4* JR 3* SO back up
DT- 5* Jr, 3* SR starters, 4* SO 3* JR back ups
LB – 4* JR 4* JR, 3* SR starter, 3* SR 3* FR, 4* FR back ups
CB – 4* Sr 3* SR starters, 3* So 4* FR back ups
S – 3* SR 3* SR starters, 3* JR 4* FR back ups

Totals
Offense starters – 2 5*, 6 4*’s, 3 3* (average grade –JR)
Offense backups – 3 5*’s, 4 4*, 2 3*, 2 U/R (average grade -SO)
Defense starters – 1 5*, 5 4*s, 5 3* (average grade SR)
Defense backups –5 4*’s, 6 3*’s (average grade SO)

Last one...Shouldn't have to worry about the Cocks. If Will dominates Butch again with this roster it is time to say goodbye.

SC two Deep http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/south-carolina/91832

Offense

Wr –4* SO, 4* FR, 3* JR starters, 2* SO 4* JR 4*FR
TE –U/R* JR starter, 4* JR back up
T – 4* JR, 3* JR starters, 3* FR, 3* JR back ups
C – 3* SR Starter, U/R FR Back up
G – 4* SR, 3* SR starters, 4* JR 3* SO back ups
RB – 3* SO starter, 3* SO Back up
QB – 4* SO starter 3* JR backup

Defense
DE- 4* SE, 3* SO starters, 4* SO 3* SO back up
DT- 3* Sr, 3* SR starters, 3* SO 3* SO back ups
LB – 4* SR 4* SR, 3* SO starter, 3* FR 3* FR, 3* FR back ups
CB – 4* Sr 4* SR starters, 3* JR 4* FR back ups
S – 4* SR U/R* JR starters, U/R SO 3* FR back ups

Totals
Offense starters –5 4*’s, 5 3*, 1 U/R (average grade –JR)
Offense backups –4 4*, 5 3*, 1 2*, 1 U/R (average grade -SO)
Defense starters –6 4*s, 4 3*, 1 U/R (average grade JR/SR)
Defense backups –2 4*’s, 8 3*’s, 1 U/R (average grade SO/FR)

 

[butchna]

You seem to be stuck on defending him no matter what. Do you predict he's going to be an impact player for us? I'm saying no, what's your opinion?

I'm saying I don't know and I know that you don't either. :hmm: Nothing to "defend". The kid will be better than I'm reading or he won't. About the extent of the SCIENCE involved in this symposium.

 

[butchna]

It sounds like his opinion is it's way too early.

Several are writing him off 14 carries into his career. 14.

He was undersized coming in and needed to add weight. He's also been dealing with nagging injuries. He's not saying he's going to be a stud, just that he's not ready to say he's a bust after a minuscule sample size.

You're way nicer than me. :wink2:

 

[The Breakerboy]

Several of us did...by your current criteria, you would have meh'd it. Had 4.1 yards per carry...same as Fil-Aime. But had 40 attempts vs 14. Stay consistent San Diego.

I didn't know I brought up Kelly's stats at all. Or was that just you by yourself making up stuff? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

 

[ionaVOL]

It sounds like his opinion is it's way too early.

Several are writing him off 14 carries into his career. 14.

He was undersized coming in and needed to add weight. He's also been dealing with nagging injuries. He's not saying he's going to be a stud, just that he's not ready to say he's a bust after a minuscule sample size.

I agree and I wouldn't classify him as a bust yet or anything. I just think we've seen enough from him and his limited opportunities and have recruited well enough to form an opinion that he probably will not have a standout career here. And that's fine. But just because he's only had 14 carries doesn't mean we have no idea what he brings to the table and what we could expect to see from him.

 

[LightningVol]

My thoughts on CFA is that he may need more time with Rock to get to an SEC caliber level. I just saw an average back during the spring game. On the small side. We will see. I hope he is a valuable contributer and helps us win. I am pulling for him.

 

[Ericvol2096]

All 4 in one post now, sorry just think this is interesting data, how people think we have a big roster problem blows my mind.

Who's would you pick?

SC
Offense starters –5 4*’s, 5 3*, 1 U/R (average grade –JR)
Offense backups –4 4*, 5 3*, 1 2*, 1 U/R (average grade -SO)
Defense starters –6 4*s, 4 3*, 1 U/R (average grade JR/SR)
Defense backups –2 4*’s, 8 3*’s, 1 U/R (average grade SO/FR)

TN
Offense starters – 2 5*, 6 4*’s, 3 3* (average grade –JR)
Offense backups – 5 4*, 6 3* (average grade -JR)
Defense starters – 2 5*, 8 4*s, 1 3* (average grade JR)
Defense backups – 1 5*, 4 4*’s, 6 3*’s (average grade JR)

FL
Offense starters – 1 5*, 6 4*’s, 2 3*, 1 2*, 1 U/R (average grade JR) -
Offense backups – 6 4*, 5 3* (average grade SO)
Defense starters – 1 5*, 5 4*s, 5 3*s (average grade JR)
Defense backups – 4 4*’s, 4 3*’s, 2 2*’s, 1 U/R (average grade SO)

GA
Offense starters – 2 5*, 6 4*’s, 3 3* (average grade –JR)
Offense backups – 3 5*’s, 4 4*, 2 3*, 2 U/R (average grade -SO)
Defense starters – 1 5*, 5 4*s, 5 3* (average grade SR)
Defense backups –5 4*’s, 6 3*’s (average grade SO)

 

[The Breakerboy]

My thoughts on CFA is that he may need more time with Rock to get to an SEC caliber level. I just saw an average back during the spring game. On the small side. We will see. I hope he is a valuable contributer and helps us win. I am pulling for him.

I would've like to see some speed or something while he was in. On 14 carries or in any of the small portion of the Spring Game I haven't seen it yet. And from a guy who was slight coming in that's a bit concerning right now.