Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

[BigZiti09]

I remember Brice being pizzed that they ran with the Haney story.

He was. But he paid the price for the company he was with.

Now he's bitter.

 

[Bigworm87]

So you don't want complete information conveyed by those covering the team? You talk about business...well, that's bad business for the journalist. I get that you have to strike a balance to maintain access, but Brice and others aren't there to be the propoganda arm for the program.

The journalist get paid by a company to cover this business. All of the media come to your field to ask you questions. If they don't agree with some things that are reported (the Haney article/headline) then you have the right to not offer anymore information. You don't think that wasn't used against us in recruiting? I mean for God's sake there were 15 unnamed "sources" and the only one to put a name on their statement was Hood. His just so happened to be the only positive thing in the article.

Nothing about propaganda. If you're bad for business, you're bad for business. TN makes the calls, just as every other school has as well. I'm sure Brice isn't the only $hit stirrer to get blackballed in the sec.

 

[31VFL]

Brice said he made the balky knee comment because of Callaway's interview. Idk if that was put in here or not.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

The journalist get paid by a company to cover this business. All of the media come to your field to ask you questions. If they don't agree with some things that are reported (the Haney article/headline) then you have the right to not offer anymore information. You don't think that wasn't used against us in recruiting? I mean for God's sake there were 15 unnamed "sources" and the only one to put a name on their statement was Hood. His just so happened to be the only positive thing in the article.

Nothing about propaganda. If you're bad for business, you're bad for business. TN makes the calls, just as every other school has as well. I'm sure Brice isn't the only $hit stirrer to get blackballed in the sec.

Media thinks they should be allowed to take a dump on UT's front porch, and then be invited in for tea and scones

 

[TN-POSSUM]

You couldn't throw a 95mph fastball standing in the bed of a truck going 80mph.

Irrelevant bump, but I bet InVol dabbed after he posted this one.

 

[McGeesPub]

Don't have to be the propaganda arm- just don't support hit pieces like Haney wrote. Pretty simple. Reasonableness was thrown out the window. Hubbs doesn't always say glowing things, but he knows not to cross the line even though he works for the university.

They have the right to do it, and many teams and businesses are doing it.

So you agree with me- striking a balance. Great. My point was that if a journalist isn't going to put something of value in his reporting, he's not going to have much of an audience. For football, sometimes that means reporting injuries and being negative. It doesn't mean he's disrespecting the university, as Mr. Melodrama would put it. He's serving his audience.

But I don't think you have your story straight with regard to Brice waving the flag for the Haney article. He got burned, and was bitter about his access. I get it, and don't blame him for it.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Working on my 14th year of marriage and never been to a John Mayer convert.

#you'redoingitwrong

20+ years of Mayer free married life here...they are definitely doing it wrong

 

[Wickman]

Sapp been hitting the weights

[twitter]https://twitter.com/volblood/status/892856254481260545[/twitter]

 

[WallyBalls]

I want UT football to be treated with respect by the media.

John Brice and those bunch of whiners are a bunch of self important goofs who should have their access pulled already.

Give me a break.

Hubbs, Hyams, Harrington, Price, Lewis, Simonton, etc all do their job without taking cheap shots and constantly whining about access.

Exactly. Case in point, the reaction to the "Society of Negativity" article this week. Read it and it's a pretty balanced article.

But to hear, for example, V. Ferrara discussing it makes it sound as if it's part of a daily parade of examples of Butch Jones being thin skinned, lowering expectations, and deflecting any and all criticism.

Doesn't matter than about 8 lines down the page Jones is literally quoted saying "We expect to win championships at the University of Tennessee,” he said. “That’s why we coach. That’s why players come here. To win championships. To compete for championships.” Doesn't matter that Jones was talking to a partisan Rotary club and not a press conference or any the preseason media availability.

Nope, he's a thin skinned whiner that incessantly complains because he dared to lob some salt towards Knoxville's slack jawed media.

 

[HankHill]

Media thinks they should be allowed to take a dump on UT's front porch, and then be invited in for tea and scones

99% of the medias problem around UT is they always think they are getting mistreated. They walk around the sidelines like they own the sidelines and that every one else should make way for them. Hyams and Hubbs are the only two in my opinion that take a genuine approach and realize that it's the coaches/ADs show and they can and should run it however they wish.

 

[McGeesPub]

Exactly. Case in point, the reaction to the "Society of Negativity" article this week. Read it and it's a pretty balanced article.

But to hear, for example, V. Ferrara discussing it makes it sound as if it's part of a daily parade of examples of Butch Jones being thin skinned, lowering expectations, and deflecting any and all criticism.

Doesn't matter than about 8 lines down the page Jones is literally quoted saying "We expect to win championships at the University of Tennessee,” he said. “That’s why we coach. That’s why players come here. To win championships. To compete for championships.” Doesn't matter that Jones was talking to a partisan Rotary club and not a press conference or any the preseason media availability.

Nope, he's a thin skinned whiner that incessantly complains because he dared to lob some salt towards Knoxville's slack jawed media.

90 percent of that speech was excellent. But the negativity comments reek of being thin-skinned as you say. Butch needs to quit doing that in such a defensive posture, because his message always gets buried.

 

[PassedOutAwake]

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/o...rt-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

Smh... Ole Miss

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

90 percent of that speech was excellent. But the negativity comments reek of being thin-skinned as you say. Butch needs to quit doing that in such a defensive posture, because his message always gets buried.

And all he does is bring the negativity back to the forefront of people's minds to begin with.

 

[volfanCLT]

Sapp been hitting the weights

[twitter]https://twitter.com/volblood/status/892856254481260545[/twitter]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

And all he does is bring the negativity back to the forefront of people's minds to begin with.

Bullcrap..everything he says gets twisted.

 

[Kristy*]

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/o...rt-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

Smh... Ole Miss

They shoplift now that they aren't getting paid.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Bullcrap..everything he says gets twisted.

Hyperbole.

Did you think the recent 247 article about his speech was unfair or his words were twisted?



My only point is that he needs to learn to just leave it alone sometimes and look forward, not backward.

 

[Glitch]

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/o...rt-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

Smh... Ole Miss

Gotta make some extra cash now that the tab at the escort service is closed? Very sad. Hope they learn their lesson.

 

[edyeary]

I don't know anything about the admin. at Ole Piss but it looks like it needs a massive enema.

 

[Catbone]

Is Josh Palmer knee injury something that limits him this year?

 

[ob79]

There's just too good of a vibe coming from this team and staff to not believe that we can pull an upset or two this year.

I think we take the next step this year and Butch shuts a lot of these media members up.

 

[The Breakerboy]

There's just too good of a vibe coming from this team and staff to not believe that we can pull an upset or two this year.

I think we take the next step this year and Butch shuts a lot of these media members up.

Upset? The physical talent is elite...... We should have a chance to win every game depending on QB play and LB play.

 

[WallyBalls]

Hyperbole.

Did you think the recent 247 article about his speech was unfair or his words were twisted?



My only point is that he needs to learn to just leave it alone sometimes and look forward, not backward.

No, they weren't twisted...in the article.

The reaction by other media is where things go off the rails. What he said to a frigging Rotary club is absolutely normal. Every coach that bothers to speak to a local group like that says similar things before a season starts. Yet he gets portrayed as the only one weak and stupid enough to do it.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Sapp been hitting the weights

[twitter]https://twitter.com/volblood/status/892856254481260545[/twitter]

This is why I say we have the best LB corp in the country. Studs all over the place.

Darrin Kirkland Jr.
Daniel Bituli
Austin Smith
Quart'e Sapp

That's 4 starting NFL linebackers right there.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

There's just too good of a vibe coming from this team and staff to not believe that we can pull an upset or two this year.

I think we take the next step this year and Butch shuts a lot of these media members up.

I agree. I love the vibe from this team as well. We're destined for something great.

I believe we beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa.