Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

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Win one of USCe and Vandy even with the D collapse and the mood on here and in the media is very different after playing in the Sugar Bowl.

The D collapse relates to player development and choices made by the staff to play specific players. It's not the system Shoop uses. Otherwise you would not see Hoke and Warren signing on. As a result I am predicting a Top 25 D this season despite the continued usage of a few players with little to no upside. I think the system will compensate for the most part and the improved coaching staff will make corrections sooner.
 
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buckfama said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.. with the injuries, locker room drama, apparently friction among the defensive assistants, and losing O'brien and Williams, I think CBJ did a decent job of holding everything together.

And now it's coming out all the crap he has to put up with from the boosters and the UT administration? If I understood it correctly they are the reason for no S&C coach last year, would not allow him to hire one.

And still finished 9-4? He did ok by me.. Vandy and SC losses be damned.
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Maybe the bit about the administration is part of what Rick Neuheisel was referring to at the beginning of last season.
 
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Thinking about the OL, and it looks like the biggest battles are inside between Thomas and Robertson for C and then Boulware and Jones for a G spot if Robertson does slide inside. With Hall out now if Kendrick struggles does anyone think we slide Trey out to RT, keep Coleman at C, and then have Robertson and Jones/Boulware at G?
 
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Appalachiamuck said:
Rewind a couple years. Did these recruits that were the core of those back to back playoff teams care about the WVU blowout? Not to mention all the other games Clemson "shouldn't have lost"? Keep in mind we're talking about the ACC here too.

Dabo surrounded himself with solid assistants who could recruit, caught some breaks, and now enjoys the spoils. Everyone is so short term results oriented, when in reality, the difference between a decent and great coach in today's game is barely noticeable and likely determined more by short term variance than anything else. Fans like BB and pretty much the vast majority is what creates situations where we only recognize 4-5 coaches as "elite" because everyone is too impatient to allow a coach the realistic timeline to develop a program. Which is, in part, a huge problem within our society today, but that is another conversation for another day.
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Quoted for truth.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
So it wasn't a bad decision on Butch's part.
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I can't say for sure either way.. it was told in the FF that he wasn't allowed to hire one..take it with a grain of salt. But if the UT admin has been slow playing Butch on replacing assistants and allowing him to make changes it explains a lot.
 
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BJHSVol said:
Thinking about the OL, and it looks like the biggest battles are inside between Thomas and Robertson for C and then Boulware and Jones for a G spot if Robertson does slide inside. With Hall out now if Kendrick struggles does anyone think we slide Trey out to RT, keep Coleman at C, and then have Robertson and Jones/Boulware at G?
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They seem to be pretty high on Tatum at RT
 
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Vols4us said:
Win one of USCe and Vandy even with the D collapse and the mood on here and in the media is very different after playing in the Sugar Bowl.

The D collapse relates to player development and choices made by the staff to play specific players. It's not the system Shoop uses. Otherwise you would not see Hoke and Warren signing on. As a result I am predicting a Top 25 D this season despite the continued usage of a few players with little to no upside. I think the system will compensate for the most part and the improved coaching staff will make corrections sooner.
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Just like the unit on the field, the other assistants have to buy in and do their job. I believe it will happen this year unlike last. If they improve and fall within the top 25, I will be happy happy happy.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
So you're going to answer by not answering the actual questions I asked? Ok then lol


Most DCs rely on their front 4 for pressure, if possible. Nobody is going to send 5-6 guys to get after the QB if they don't have to.
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Randy Shannon doesn't send help with LBs is what I'm saying. They are thin up front and don't have monstrous pass rushers.
 
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