Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

[Darth_Shiveman]

Is there any language in his contract about his buyout being reduced if he gets another head coaching job after being fired?

If he gets a CFB or NFL job as a HC or assistant or a College job as an administrator, his new salary is deducted from the 2.5 million/year.

 

[BruinVol]

I was responding to a post about the difference between Auburn and UT, and I used examples of the different mentalities. I'm not an Auburn fan, but they always believe they should be running with the big dogs. I feel that way about UT and wish more people did.

Ok. I missed the first post.
My apologies

 

[LA Vol]

Ok. I missed the first post.
My apologies

No problem.

 

[chavisut]

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[LaagerVol]

I agree with this.

You guys seriously think winning 10 or more once every 5 years is where we should be????

 

[McGeesPub]

I was responding to a post about the difference between Auburn and UT, and I used examples of the different mentalities. I'm not an Auburn fan, but they always believe they should be running with the big dogs. I feel that way about UT and wish more people did.

The "dumbest fan base" comments really apply to those who don't feel that way.

 

[JCP201]

If Butch were to be fired mid season. Who do u want to take over for the rest of the season? For me, Coach G or Shoop

Fulmer.

 

[McGeesPub]

You guys seriously think winning 10 or more once every 5 years is where we should be????

Frankly, it should be more often than that.

 

[jordan4vols]

I may be a conspiracy theorist here but I think all this talk in the preseason about winning 17 of the last 21 and so many nine win seasons and all that other stuff was just Butch setting up for his next job. I think that's why he hired a new agent because his agent last year couldn't get the job he wanted or another job and I think he and the University saw the writing on the wall and that's why there was no extension. If he has a great season he uses that to spring into a new job with momentum. If he has a bad season we fire him. Currie then makes his mark and brings in who he wants to bring in

 

[BJWeeks]

I may be a conspiracy theorist here but I think all this talk in the preseason about winning 17 of the last 21 and so many nine win seasons and all that other stuff was just Butch setting up for his next job. I think that's why he hired a new agent because his agent last year couldn't get the job he wanted or another job and I think he and the University saw the writing on the wall and that's why there was no extension. If he has a great season he uses that to spring into a new job with momentum. If he has a bad season we fire him. Currie then makes his mark and brings in who he wants to bring in

Sounds legit

 

[BJWeeks]

Brohm would be my choice

A lot of people will have to turn us down for Brohm to land here

 

[Exiled]

Here is what was said about his original contract from 2012:

"If Jones is fired without cause, Tennessee will owe him as much as $2 million per year, payable in monthly installments. If terminated, Jones is required to make “reasonable best efforts to mitigate the university’s obligation to pay liquid damage,” meaning UT would be relieved of his buyout payment should he find another job that pays him $2 million or more after he leaves. Tennessee would owe him the difference if he gets a job that pays him less than $2 million per year.

If he is fired with cause, UT would owe him no further money."

http://nooga.com/158907/breaking-down-new-ut-coach-butch-jones-contract/

Thanks Berg. I thought I saw that somewhere. I believe the buyout is $2.5M per year in the new contract.

 

[LaagerVol]

We were not in this game. We were in excellent position to win this game, but sometimes players have to execute. I realize that we had a lot of young players, especially receivers, playing in their first hostile road game, but you have to execute at the highest level when you are an underdog on the road.

But you know what? Unlike a lot of you, I feel pretty good about this team. We lost because there were a lot of mistakes made on the field. A lot of the mistakes I saw Saturday I can attribute to growing pains, and those can be corrected as players are gaining experience. I see Bama as the only sure loss on our schedule. LSU showed it has flaws on both sides of the ball. UGA I think is a pretty good ball club, but they also have weaknesses. I still believe 8-4 at worst, with 9-3 being highly possible, and even an outside shot at 10-2. And I think in a season where we were replacing about 90% of our offensive production, at least 8-4 will be a decent season, will hold this recruiting class together, and set us up nicely for next season.

I agree with your posts a lot of the time but do you REALLY think this was a well coached game and all on the players??

 

[chavisut]

Taggart
Patterson
Mullen
Fuente

 

[ChattaTNVol]

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[InVOLuntary]

Didn't he fall to 7 a time or 2?

Can't remember.

 

[Smokey123]

Hoke is assistant head coach for a reason

Are AHC always the ones to take over? I don't think O was, he was just promoted to Recruiting coordinator before the season.

 

[BruinVol]

Are AHC always the ones to take over? I don't think O was, he was just promoted to Recruiting coordinator before the season.

Cam Cameron was fired with Miles. I am guessing he was associate head coach but not sure. Some staffs don't even have a coach in that title I don't think.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

A lot of people will have to turn us down for Brohm to land here

I’d be pretty happy with Brohm though. His offenses have been legit. Pair him with a really good DC and he could be a really good hire. His name is going to be pretty hot this offseason, IMO.

 

[LaagerVol]

I'm sure we are gonna do everything possible to avoid that $7.5m hit.

I just don't think someone is gonna want him bad enough for us to get out of it. Don't think he is gonna win enough to be a hot commodity.

I agree with that.

Who all still wants him gone if we were to somehow go 9-3?

 

[Smokey123]

Cam Cameron was fired with Miles. I am guessing he was associate head coach but not sure. Some staffs don't even have a coach in that title I don't think.

Good point. It would be be interesting if someone went and looked back at all the fired coaches and see how many times someone other than the AHC took over

 

[BruinVol]

Good point. It would be be interesting if someone went and looked back at all the fired coaches and see how many times someone other than the AHC took over

In our case the associate head coach has a wealth of head coaching experience I would bet a lot to a little he would be the one named.

 

[VolGee4]

Cam Cameron was fired with Miles. I am guessing he was associate head coach but not sure. Some staffs don't even have a coach in that title I don't think.

Orgeron fired Cam Cameron when they promoted him. Pretty sure they told Oregeron it was his decision.

 

[bignewt]

While it's pretty clear that most Tennessee fans are done believing he can get it done, it kind of seems like he doesn't believe he can either deep down. I've heard a few people say this about him.

Talkin to the mirror again?

 

[MrVolton]

Peterson
Chip Kelly
Mullen
Durkin
Brohm
Tee
Norvell
Venables

In order.
I'd add McIntyre in there too, if it weren't for the Title IX stuff. We sure don't need that now.