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Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. He died for all of us, he loves everyone. I hope all find him and repent of their sins to him and accept him as their Lord and Savior. It doesn't make us perfect it makes us saved. Faith is the key and if folks will just pray to him and talk to him and believe in him their lives will change for the better.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Idk about Taoism, but Buddhism and Hinduism definitely have hells. In Hinduism you have to go through them to get reincarnated. I'm going to assume here (risky I know) that you've had your fair share of beef throughout your life...so yeah there's some risk there.

Buddhism is hard to generalize because there are a lot of different kinds with some different beliefs. But I'm sure Nick could tell us about the "Hell Parks" they have in places like Thailand. Somewhat like Hinduism, you've got to spend time relative to your karmic balance (whether you were a generally good person or not) before you get back in the cycle of reincarnation.

But in Buddhism the goal isn't really to keep getting reincarnated. It's to reach enlightenment and remove yourself from the cycle of reincarnation. Otherwise you keep going to hell and suffering for prolonged amounts of time because your karmic balance as a wasp was so s****y
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Well, I do love beef. Steaks, hamburgers, leather belts and coats. I would be curious to find out why the Hindu people settled on the cow as their sacred animal. The elephant seems much more majestic than the cow.
 
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Hi Bass,

How about this?

We are both Christian. We are otherwise radically different in our interpretation of Christianity.

I will happily discuss this in Heaven when we meet there. (You may have to wait for me for awhile. As a Catholic, I will probably have to go to Purgatory for a bit)

Until we do actually meet in Heaven, I will no longer discuss religion with you. If only one of us make it, then that one is the clear winner... :hi:

I feel this discussion is as if I only speak Italian. You only speak English. But we are trying to converse in Mandarin Chinese (which neither of us speak) :)

Addio mi amico (zai jian wo de peng you) Goodbye my friend :salute:
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Hi Bass,

How about this?

We are both Christian. We are otherwise radically different in our interpretation of Christianity.

I will happily discuss this in Heaven when we meet there. (You may have to wait for me for awhile. As a Catholic, I will probably have to go to Purgatory for a bit)

Until we do actually meet in Heaven, I will no longer discuss religion with you. If only one of us make it, then that one is the clear winner... :hi:

I feel this discussion is as if I only speak Italian. You only speak English. But we are trying to converse in Mandarin Chinese (which neither of us speak) :)

Addio mi amico (zai jian wo de peng you) Goodbye my friend :salute:
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All I'm asking buddy is that you think about why you believe certain things. I'm just trying to get you to reason things out in your own mind. You don't have to talk with me anymore. Has nothing to do with me. I'm just asking that you think about these things and where your authority lies. That's all bud. Hope I meet you there
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
All I'm asking buddy is that you think about why you believe certain things. I'm just trying to get you to reason things out in your own mind. You don't have to talk with me anymore. Has nothing to do with me. I'm just asking that you think about these things and where your authority lies. That's all bud. Hope I meet you there
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Can't resist can you?
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I believe that God is merciful, but willing disobedience of, or stubborn denial of the truth when it's presented to you, will cause you to be lost. As for the innocently ignorant, they are in Gods hands, however he judges them is going to be fine with me. I trust him, he knows his own.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I believe that God is merciful, but willing disobedience of, or stubborn denial of the truth when it's presented to you, will cause you to be lost. As for the innocently ignorant, they are in Gods hands, however he judges them is going to be fine with me. I trust him, he knows his own.
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Exactly.
 
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Glitch said:
Well, I do love beef. Steaks, hamburgers, leather belts and coats. I would be curious to find out why the Hindu people settled on the cow as their sacred animal. The elephant seems much more majestic than the cow.
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Agreed on beef.

As for Hindus, cattle is just more of a taboo than being sacred per se. They don't eat meat at all (not just cows). Cows used to be super valuable because of the milk they produced and were at one point sacrifices for the gods. So it's just considered like a little worse than eating other meats for reasons that are more cultural than anything.
 
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Glitch said:
What do I lose through my faith in God and Jesus? Nothing. I really lose nothing. If I die and am wrong then I have lost nothing either. If I die and there is nothing else then I am just dead. However, if I am right, and there is an afterlife then I have gained everything. I'll continue my faith in God and Jesus. It's like gambling with the house's money. If I lose it then, oh well. If I win, though.... eternity in the presence of God sounds like an eternity that I want to be a part of.
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Apologies in advance if this sounds offensive because that's not my intent, but this had always struck me as one of the more disenginuous arguments for belief in Christianity. Fear of the wrong outcome in the afterlife can't make you truly believe something that you previously didn't. It might make someone go through the motions, but I would think God would know what is in someone's heart.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I believe that God is merciful, but willing disobedience of, or stubborn denial of the truth when it's presented to you, will cause you to be lost. As for the innocently ignorant, they are in Gods hands, however he judges them is going to be fine with me. I trust him, he knows his own.
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Well put...
 
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jjay2518 said:
Apologies in advance if this sounds offensive because that's not my intent, but this had always struck me as one of the more disenginuous arguments for belief in Christianity. Fear of the wrong outcome in the afterlife can't make you truly believe something that you previously didn't. It might make someone go through the motions, but I would think God would know what is in someone's heart.
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I wasn't trying to imply that one should take the Christian route for that reason. However, everyone's relationship with God has to start somewhere. If the idea of making the vest bet provokes someone to think that Jesus might be the vest bet and they begin a relationship with God because of that then I am all for that.
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
I was raised Southern Baptist. I switched because my wife and I thought one denomination would be easier for raising children...

I am now Catholic. I will no longer go to hell for drinking alcoholic beverages or for dancing. I will definitely go to purgatory, but there is an option for Heaven afterwards. :hi:

There is a verse in Romans that states that you should let your brother worship in his own manner.

This post isn't exactly aimed at you Bass, but more at those that think one denomination is better than another. Each and every one has its good and bad points. Not one is superior to another. Those that believe that their version have started wars and killed others for minor variations in doctrine. Not so sure that is what God or Jesus intended.

Please don't go all LBJ/NBA on this too :no:
Darth has lept off that cliff long ago.[/QUOTE
Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. No purgatory there. 100 percent agree about denominations. Catholic Church is a religion with very different beliefs than Protestants. Some do not line up with the Bible NT wise IMO. Purgatory is a big one. Just believe in Christ dying for your sins and building that relationship and grow to be Christlike even to Darth and Lebron is where it is at. I have failed at that even on this board at times. Hope you all find Jesus and the way even myself.
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Darth_Shiveman said:
As for my motivations, it's simple: encourage a dialogue where people where people can question things they normally aren't allowed to (or rather, don't feel comfortable to) question.

If some read my posts and come away more solid in your faith, then more power to him/her/xer (lol jk jk). If you come away with questions or doubts, then (IMO) there's probably a very good reason for that. Hopefully you'll look further into those questions and decide for yourself.
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This is his goal. He's looking for converts to his religion of no religion. This is merica. But it really is America and all totally have the freedom of beliefs and thoughts. Darth and Bass. Those who attack either and I say attack not disagree, are the most dangerous and bigoted.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
It always amazes me that people throw out that quote without reading all the way through. Just a few verses later Jesus says "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you"...There is a big difference then in judging and having good judgement. He tells us to be careful with each.
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The original Greek word used there means to judge to be put to death. Only God has that power in regards to sins. This was what was being addressed not that anything is permissible Just that the Pharasees did not have the right to be killing people for things like adultery and in doing so would have to answer for it.
 
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