Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

[GoBigOrange86]

Most huge companies struggle with efficiency and effectiveness. Anything that large deals with bureaucracy. I'm not pro large government but think that argument is a blanket statement that lacks some neccessary nuance. Health care has been broken for decades.

If you want to get back to root causes, you could make an argument that it's the New Deal's fault. Wage freezes during the Depression (which are a terrible idea) led to companies trying to attract workers by offering to pay for their health care costs, and from that point it was off to the races.

 

[Sleegro]

If you want to get back to root causes, you could make an argument that it's the New Deal's fault. Wage freezes during the Depression (which are a terrible idea) led to companies trying to attract workers by offering to pay for their health care costs, and from that point it was off to the races.

But was health care great before that? We should ask invol. He was around before the new deal.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

But was health care great before that? We should ask invol. He was around before the new deal.

 

[Rishvol]

But was health care great before that? We should ask invol. He was around before the new deal.

Well of granpappy was still around we could've asked him how it was before health care was invented

 

[jakez4ut]

If my sickness somehow started a political conversation, I'll go see a flipping faith healer instead.

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Lol

 

[jakez4ut]

I get that the blame for healthcare expense lies on every side. The thing that makes my blood boil with insurance companies is the imposed management of care by remote, disconnected, unqualified clerks following cynically established self-protective guidelines, and whose decisions can ruin or end actual human lives. And neither the actual humans nor the doctors who are trying to help them really have much say in it.

Well the purpose is to decline claims. And work backwards from there lol.

 

[Ace]

I met one of my best friends in Ukraine. He came to the US to go to school and just became an US citizen.
He grew up In the Soviet Union.
I have travelled in Russia and Ukraine during the 90s and early 2000s.

Here is his question to me:

Why do politicians and people here think that the failed policies of the Soviet Union will work here?

He lived in a country where as a child he waited weeks to see the doctor and waited daily to hope to get some food.
More Gov’t control of business and industry is never the answer.

 

[SSVol]

I met one of my best friends in Ukraine. He came to the US to go to school and just became an US citizen.
He grew up In the Soviet Union.
I have travelled in Russia and Ukraine during the 90s and early 2000s.

Here is his question to me:

Why do politicians and people here think that the failed policies of the Soviet Union will work here?

He lived in a country where as a child he waited weeks to see the doctor and waited daily to hope to get some food.
More Gov’t control of business and industry is never the answer.

Spent a couple of weeks ministering in Latvia, 2005-ish. Those espousing such things have zero concept of how much of a fail it is. No concept.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Health care was cheap then because it was very basic. No hmo's. You went to the doctor, you paid for the visit. Made you think twice about going for every sniffle. 80/20 for the big stuff with a maximum annual expenditure. I wish it would return to a system like that.

But was health care great before that? We should ask invol. He was around before the new deal.

 

[Sleegro]

Health care was cheap then because it was very basic. No hmo's. You went to the doctor, you paid for the visit. Made you think twice about going for every sniffle. 80/20 for the big stuff with a maximum annual expenditure. I wish it would return to a system like that.

I told y'all he'd remember the early 1900s.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I told y'all he'd remember the early 1900s.

1980s. Also, my employer paid 100% of the premium.

 

[DefenseWins]

If my sickness somehow started a political conversation, I'll go see a flipping faith healer instead.

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[SSVol]

I told y'all he'd remember the early 1900s.

Probably has a decent memory of them curing consumption and polio.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Probably has a decent memory of them curing consumption and polio.

I played water polio once.

 

[OrangeBlood4life]

Ha!! My insurance was so good, I never saw a bill from hospital after wife c section delivery, 3 night stay. I paid 100 dollars.
Obama thought he should add a "Cadillac" tax on good coverage. Which made my monthly payment go up a good amount.. chaps my azz

 

[SSVol]

I played water polio once.

Marco!

 

[Rishvol]

I played water polio once.

 

[Leeleesteeth]

Health care was cheap then because it was very basic. No hmo's. You went to the doctor, you paid for the visit. Made you think twice about going for every sniffle. 80/20 for the big stuff with a maximum annual expenditure. I wish it would return to a system like that.

The Hmo's were all in the closet.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

The Hmo's were all in the closet.

We're all HMO's. HMOsapiens.

 

[Rishvol]

We're all HMO's. HMOsapiens.

Look two posts above

 

[VolArtillery]

Military insurance is where it's at, pay $50 a month for the dental portion and that's all. My wife and I have had four children and combined it's been under $75. Just gotta be willing to die for you're country if needed. Lol.

 

[tennvols77]

Military insurance is where it's at, pay $50 a month for the dental portion and that's all. My wife and I have had four children and combined it's been under $75. Just gotta be willing to die for you're country if needed. Lol.

Here here, for all you socialist and communist bafoons, go serve your country and earn the right to have the government do it's part for you. They will also give you damn near free education, and travel. And, the government can still do more for our servicemen than they currently do.

Thank you VolArtillery for your service, you deserve more than you get.

 

[HankHill]

1980s. Also, my employer paid 100% of the premium.

If there’s one thing i miss about UT is that family insurance. 260$ a month for full family health, vision, and dental

 

[xtremevolfan]

Ha!! My insurance was so good, I never saw a bill from hospital after wife c section delivery, 3 night stay. I paid 100 dollars.
Obama thought he should add a "Cadillac" tax on good coverage. Which made my monthly payment go up a good amount.. chaps my azz

My wife and I had our first daughter in '07 we had a $100 deductible while paying roughly 200 bucks a month. In "15 we had our last daughter with a 7000 dollar deductible and a lil over 800 a month for the family plan and I still work for the same company. Its ridiculously expensive to even have a child nowadays.

 

[kemotoe]

I worked for the state of TN for a little while. While there are a lot of negatives involved you get paid less than in the private sector, you deal with more bureaucracy, things move sloooow. The health benefits and retirement benefits are heads and shoulders above the private sector.