Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

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Coach Punk said:
I keep waiting for @nicksjuzunk music to play and him to clear the ring with theological Stone Cold Stunners.













I grew up in small town East Tennessee. Everything’s about wraslin’ and Jesus there.
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Sorry bro

I steer clear of this in a public forum. Love to talk face to face in the context of relationship where discussions and objections are generally more productive. I’d love to have a cup of tea with anyone here to discuss these things, but on here, I try to stay in my lane unless sharing a personal thing
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Ron Swanson said:
Maybe you're wrong? I mean, it was just a book written by humans 2000 year ago. It's cool to have faith and beliefs and follow a path but NO ONE KNOWS THE TRUTH. Stop pretending your book and your beliefs ARE THE ONLY TRUTH. It's ridiculous.
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You're fine to believe that. But don't tell me that "my book" says not to condemn other religions and that there are multiple paths to God. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but don't twist the Scripture to support it.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I know this sounds good in modern culture, but it just isn't true. Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through Me" John 14:6. He also said, "Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because He has not believed in the name of the only Son of God" John 3:18. Jesus denies that there are multiple paths. He says time and time again, that there is one way. There are so many other verses I can quote that say the same thing. You may not believe that, and that's your preogative, but if you are right and there are multiple ways to God, then Jesus was a liar. If He is a liar, then He's not the Savior. That then, at the least, eliminates Christianity from even being a path to God. It really is that simple. If Jesus is not the only way, then He wasn't a good teacher, He was a liar, and thus He is not the Messiah and we should be looking for another.

So I reject that there is no right answer, and I stand with Christ who claimed Himself to be the only way and proved it by His resurrection from the dead. It is so tempting to go along with our culture and just say just be spiritual or just seek the Lord, but Christ didn't say that, and thus neither can I. And since these are the words of Christ that I quoted, He absolutely would condemn false teaching that says there are other ways. In fact, He did it Himself: "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves" Matthew 7:15. So, it is a twisting of Scripture to say that we are not to judge those who worship false Gods. Paul went to the Areopagus and proclaimed the gospel to the Athenian philosophers. He called the heretics in Colossae heretics and warned the church from listening to them. He said that the heretics bringing a different religion to the Galatians were cursed, condemned to hell, because of their false teaching. So it just isn't true to say God doesn't want us to expose false religion. That is anti-biblical and anti-Christ.
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I will pray for you.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Sorry bro

I steer clear of this in a public forum. Love to talk face to face in the context of relationship where discussions and objections are generally more productive. I’d love to have a cup of tea with anyone here to discuss these things, but on here, I try to stay in my lane unless sharing a personal thing
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
You're fine to believe that. But don't tell me that "my book" says not to condemn other religions and that there are multiple paths to God. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but don't twist the Scripture to support it.
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That kind of shity attitude is why so many people are leaving the church. Your condescending judgmental attitude towards others who don't believe what you do is disgusting.
 
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@bignewt what in tarnation is going on with Netflix? Was tempted to sell the other day when it was close to $370. It's nose dived today. Down 11% as of a few minutes ago.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
That kind of shity attitude is why so many people are leaving the church. Your condescending judgmental attitude towards others who don't believe what you do is disgusting.
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My attitude? How do you know what my attitude is? I simply responded to a post that says that there are multiple paths to God with the words of Christ that denies that and also to demonstrate that the common idea that God doesn't want us to judge other religions is erroneous. That's not an attitude issue, it's simply the facts that were presented. You may not like those facts, but that isn't my problem. Your issue isn't with me but with the words that I quoted.

My response that you quoted here was a simple statement of fact. SCvol says that God doesn't want us to judge other religions. I quoted multiple places in the NT that prove that isn't true. How is that bad attitude? I simply said don't use the Bible to say that we shouldn't condemn other religions when the Bible condemns false religions from cover to cover. It isn't my attitude that's the problem here, Ron.

Further, by saying that there are multiple ways is actually a judgmental and condemning statement about my religion. So here you tell me that my attidue towards others who don't agree with me is disgusting, while you have this same attitude that you are condemning towards me because I don't agree with you!
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I know this sounds good in modern culture, but it just isn't true. Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through Me" John 14:6. He also said, "Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because He has not believed in the name of the only Son of God" John 3:18. Jesus denies that there are multiple paths. He says time and time again, that there is one way. There are so many other verses I can quote that say the same thing. You may not believe that, and that's your preogative, but if you are right and there are multiple ways to God, then Jesus was a liar. If He is a liar, then He's not the Savior. That then, at the least, eliminates Christianity from even being a path to God. It really is that simple. If Jesus is not the only way, then He wasn't a good teacher, He was a liar, and thus He is not the Messiah and we should be looking for another.

So I reject that there is no right answer, and I stand with Christ who claimed Himself to be the only way and proved it by His resurrection from the dead. It is so tempting to go along with our culture and just say just be spiritual or just seek the Lord, but Christ didn't say that, and thus neither can I. And since these are the words of Christ that I quoted, He absolutely would condemn false teaching that says there are other ways. In fact, He did it Himself: "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves" Matthew 7:15. So, it is a twisting of Scripture to say that we are not to judge those who worship false Gods. Paul went to the Areopagus and proclaimed the gospel to the Athenian philosophers. He called the heretics in Colossae heretics and warned the church from listening to them. He said that the heretics bringing a different religion to the Galatians were cursed, condemned to hell, because of their false teaching. So it just isn't true to say God doesn't want us to expose false religion. That is anti-biblical and anti-Christ.
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There is one path to God. Christ offered it to those in the Middle East because they were desperately in need of it. Those in India had already found the way centuries before. Their writings say basically the same thing as the Bible. In fact it would be hard to tell a difference between the two a lot of the time if you just read different quotes without a reference to what source it came from.

If you’re following the one true path it doesn’t matter what you label yourself. You’ll find god. The different “isms” are the true wolves in sheep’s clothes. They’re used to further divide you from your brothers and sisters around the world. That is what leads to atrocities. Not the words of the religions but those that twist the words to turn us against one another.

Maybe try reading other scriptures and broadening your horizons. It’s helped me appreciate Christ even more
 
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jakez4ut said:
took long enough lol. i knew when i saw that post earlier this morning about the civility of the religion conversation that we were on borrowed time lol.
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We can't be afraid to talk about difficult and controversial topics. It doesn't upset me that people on here disagree with me
 
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ron and bass be like
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
My attitude? How do you know what my attitude is? I simply responded to a post that says that there are multiple paths to God with the words of Christ that denies that and also to demonstrate that the common idea that God doesn't want us to judge other religions is erroneous. That's not an attitude issue, it's simply the facts that were presented. You may not like those facts, but that isn't my problem. Your issue isn't with me but with the words that I quoted.

My response that you quoted here was a simple statement of fact. SCvol says that God doesn't want us to judge other religions. I quoted multiple places in the NT that prove that isn't true. How is that bad attitude? I simply said don't use the Bible to say that we shouldn't condemn other religions when the Bible condemns false religions from cover to cover. It isn't my attitude that's the problem here, Ron.

Further, by saying that there are multiple ways is actually a judgmental and condemning statement about my religion. So here you tell me that my attidue towards others who don't agree with me is disgusting, while you have this same attitude that you are condemning towards me because I don't agree with you!
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Not at all. Most people don’t agree with me on the topic. What gets under my skin is the whole “oh he doesn’t believe what I believe so I’ll pray for his soul” condescension that’s so widespread.

And you keep using the word truth but the reality is no one knows the truth. Faith and beliefs are cool and all but that’s all they are. They’re not proven truths and they never will be.
 
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