Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

[bignewt]

They were killing each other for political power.

They were killing each other for religious reasons also, ignorant to think otherwise. Take a gander at the Huguenots.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Founding fathers were not big fans of religion.

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." - Ben Franklin

"This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it!" - John Adams

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." - Thomas Jefferson

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Founding fathers were not big fans of religion.

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." - Ben Franklin

"This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it!" - John Adams

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." - Thomas Jefferson

Oh look, I can do that too:

“The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity.” -John Adams

“My hopes of a future life are all founded upon the Gospel of Christ and I cannot cavil or quibble away [evade or object to]. . . . the whole tenor of His conduct by which He sometimes positively asserted and at others countenances [permits] His disciples in asserting that He was God”- John Quincy Adams

“The name of the Lord (says the Scripture) is a strong tower; thither the righteous flee and are safe [Proverbs 18:10]. Let us secure His favor and He will lead us through the journey of this life and at length receive us to a better.” -Samuel Adams

“I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ.” -Thomas Jefferson

 

[VolGee4]

Founding fathers were not big fans of religion.

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." - Ben Franklin

"This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it!" - John Adams

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." - Thomas Jefferson

You picked out two who were Deists. But I believe that a majority of the founding fathers had Christian beliefs. I have even seen Adams and Jefferson referred to as Christian Deists. There were many others that were Christian, and I am sure historians have proof through church rolls and baptisms to verify that.

 

[tnhunter 10]

They were killing each other for religious reasons also, ignorant to think otherwise. Take a gander at the Huguenots.

France had wars just on religion. The catholic government of France, tried to massacre all of the Huguenots.

 

[bignewt]

France had wars just on religion. The catholic government of France, tried to massacre all of the Huguenots.

and the british and french killed each other for hundreds of years, one protestant, one catholic.

 

[Rishvol]

and the british and french killed each other for hundreds of years, one protestant, one catholic.

That's not why they killed each other. Don't twist history to make it fit your views. That was 100% political. They were the two greatest powers in Europe and the 100 years war was because of a power struggle

 

[bignewt]

That's not why they killed each other. Don't twist history to make it fit your views. That was 100% political. They were the two greatest powers in Europe and the 100 years war was because of a power struggle

ok. yea, had nothing to do with religion.

 

[SSVol]

Religion in this context is simply a proxy for differences, no different than race, language, or location. Nobody killing in the name of Jesus has the slightest idea what it means to be His follower.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Religion in this context is simply a proxy for differences, no different than race, language, or location. Nobody killing in the name of Jesus has the slightest idea what it means to be His follower.

Exactly. None of this talk means anything

 

[bignewt]

Exactly. None of this talk means anything

other than the fact that killing of a fellow man has been in the name of religion most of our history.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

other than the fact that killing of a fellow man has been in the name of religion most of our history.

And that doesn’t make the religion which they named false. People are sinners and will do wicked things.

 

[pismonque]

Since BGS and Bass started a seemingly innocuous chat about Wednesday church, it's been 6 days and 22 pages of ongoing debate. Fortunately, though, I think we're getting really close to resolution now. A lot of minds have been changed and people are starting to see eye to eye. Good job, everybody!

 

[Glitch]

And that doesn’t make the religion which they named false. People are sinners and will do wicked things.

It is an interesting dichotomy in our society when the majority of terrorism in the world today is perpetrated by people claiming to be Muslims, and Islam more often than not gets a pass in terms of not being specifically blamed for the actions of those terrorists. However, our society is willing to look back hundreds of years at the crusades, wars between Catholics and Protestants, or any crazy actions by every nutbag that claims to be a Christian as evidence of what a horrible religion Christianity and Christians in general are.

 

[Glitch]

Since BGS and Bass started a seemingly innocuous chat about Wednesday church, it's been 6 days and 22 pages of ongoing debate. Fortunately, though, I think we're getting really close to resolution now. A lot of minds have been changed and people are starting to see eye to eye. Good job, everybody!

 

[bignewt]

It is an interesting dichotomy in our society when the majority of terrorism in the world today is perpetrated by people claiming to be Muslims, and Islam more often than not gets a pass in terms of not being specifically blamed for the actions of those terrorists. However, our society is willing to look back hundreds of years at the crusades, wars between Catholics and Protestants, or any crazy actions by every nutbag that claims to be a Christian as evidence of what a horrible religion Christianity and Christians in general are.

I don't agree, Islam is seen by many, especially in this country, in a very negative light.

 

[SLICKYINC]

I don't agree, Islam is seen by many, especially in this country, in a very negative light.

One best not speak ill of it in this country or you'll be labeled some ist/ism..

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

It is an interesting dichotomy in our society when the majority of terrorism in the world today is perpetrated by people claiming to be Muslims, and Islam more often than not gets a pass in terms of not being specifically blamed for the actions of those terrorists. However, our society is willing to look back hundreds of years at the crusades, wars between Catholics and Protestants, or any crazy actions by every nutbag that claims to be a Christian as evidence of what a horrible religion Christianity and Christians in general are.

Amazing, isn’t it?

 

[Glitch]

I don't agree, Islam is seen by many, especially in this country, in a very negative light.

Media goes out of their way to limit the bad exposure that Islam gets when a radical Islamist terror attack occurs. The headline will read, "Terrorist Attack on Hotel". Let those loons at Westboro "Baptist Church" protest a funeral and the headline will read "Baptists Protests Homosexual Funeral"

 

[Glitch]

Amazing, isn’t it?

Not really if you know how the enemy works.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Not really if you know how the enemy works.

Sarcasm it was

 

[SweetasSoda]

and the british and french killed each other for hundreds of years, one protestant, one catholic.

Oh, those in power definitely used religion to incite the masses.

 

[Glitch]

Sarcasm it was

 

[bignewt]

Media goes out of their way to limit the bad exposure that Islam gets when a radical Islamist terror attack occurs. The headline will read, "Terrorist Attack on Hotel". Let those loons at Westboro "Baptist Church" protest a funeral and the headline will read "Baptists Protests Homosexual Funeral"

I'm not talking about the media, I'm talking about the masses in the western world.

 

[Glitch]

I'm not talking about the media, I'm talking about the masses in the western world.

You mean the masses that depend on the media and social media to tell them what to think and how to behave?