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From an AP article:
“This may be a big deal or it may be a symbolic way to launch some [initial] retaliatory strikes that are easy to execute without that much damage,” Ilan Goldenberg, a former State and Defense Department official now with the Center for a New American Security, wrote on Twitter. “We need to wait and see.”

So ballistics bad but we need to see how they're using them. It very well could be for show or it could be serious.
 
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From an AP article:
“This may be a big deal or it may be a symbolic way to launch some [initial] retaliatory strikes that are easy to execute without that much damage,” Ilan Goldenberg, a former State and Defense Department official now with the Center for a New American Security, wrote on Twitter. “We need to wait and see.”

So ballistics bad but we need to see how they're using them. It very well could be for show or it could be serious.
This is what it sounds like. Really hoping it’s more style than substance, just trying to save face. Don’t want anymore wars.
 
Ain’t losing no war with Trump daddy in command. Believe that.

lol. It has far more to do with being the world's most equipped/armed and technologically advanced military than the symbolic Commander in Chief. Presidents get us into wars but they don't fight them. At any rate. the last thing we need is an effing war.
 
lol. It has far more to do with being the world's most equipped/armed and technologically advanced military than the symbolic Commander in Chief. Presidents get us into wars but they don't fight them.
No doubt. Only helps the cause whenever your Commander in Chief isn’t a coward, however.
 
lol. It has far more to do with being the world's most equipped/armed and technologically advanced military than the symbolic Commander in Chief. Presidents get us into wars but they don't fight them.
Listened to an interview with a general over the summer when tensions with Iran really started to escalate. He said that a war with Iran would be extremely costly both financially and in terms of life. It’s an extremely well armed and mountainous country. Plus we’ve already destabilized so much of the Middle East. The consequences of destroying Iran are incalculable.

I imagine it will send even more refugees to Europe and cause even more groups like ISIS to appear.
 
No doubt. Only helps the cause whenever your Commander in Chief isn’t a coward.

I don't think we've had a cowardly one yet. We've had ones that were more brash than others and those that were more plodding but no cowards. Foreign policy and war aren't things that have been guided by partisanship by those in office over the last 75 years or so (out of office yes you have strong hawks and doves rallying bases but in office foreign policy is very similar regardless of who is in charge because it's about national interests).
 
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I don't think we've had a cowardly one yet. We've had ones that were more brash than others and those that were more plodding but no cowards. Foreign policy and war aren't things that have been guided by partisanship by those in office over the last 75 years or so (out of office yes you have strong hawks and doves rallying bases but in office foreign policy is very similar regardless of who is in charge because it's about national interests).
Carter is probably the one that people could fairly call a coward. Obama to a degree just because of his “red line” comments on Syria. I still think he made the correct decision to not get involved in that mess
 
I generally don’t like these subjects on this site as this is my relief from real life, but I do have to bring up the point out that the same people (media and politicians) freaking out over the killing of the Iranian general were the same ones who called Trump weak for not retaliating when a drone was shot down.

Movements have been measured, not erratic; and these media figures and politicians have ZERO credibility.
 
I generally don’t like these subjects on this site as this is my relief from real life, but I do have to bring up the point out that the same people (media and politicians) freaking out over the killing of the Iranian general were the same ones who called Trump weak for not retaliating when a drone was shot down.

Movements have been measured, not erratic; and these media figures and politicians have ZERO credibility.
Politicians have no credibility at all. Many of them don't care about us, they don't care about right and wrong, they only care about votes. And they will say whatever they think will get them votes, whether its true or not.

So if Obama were president and he killed Solemani, he would be lauded as a hero by the same people criticizing Trump and characterizing the Iranian terrorist as a poet and whatever else they're saying. Michael Moore would not be apologizing to Iran, but seeking a 3rd term for Obama. This type of thing disgusts me which is why I don't watch or read. Its so dumb to watch the petulant children refuse to stand up at the state of the union address, for example, when the president says something that is good no matter what side of the party line you are on.

It's all embarrassing and disgusting.
 
Both sides do the hypocritical bs period.
This concerns everyone equally and VN is one of the best places I know for concentration of information.
So please inform of any developments but at least attempt to do so without political horse poop attached.

The PF is a click away and filled with threads to pretend to be concerned for American lives, right before using tragedies to blabber pathetic political agendas.
 
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I’m aware of the Military Industrial Complex and I’m no fan. I’ve been against many of our wars we’ve been on for that reason. But how would you respond when a country continues to provoke over and over to the point of leading and assault on our embassy? The same people who held our people hostage in an embassy 40 years ago.

Did those companies conspire for this to happen?

Should be give the Iranians another $180 Billion to appease them? And what do you think that money was used for?

I’m no war monger, but these are some bad characters that past administrations have allowed to run wild for too long. I do like the fact that we’ve chosen economic sanctions vs military moves in the last couple years, but we’d all be naive to think they’d just sit and take it.
 
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