Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

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SSVol said:
Opening is likely the lesser of evils, but anyone who specifies a demographic as part of the justification, is wandering over into dangerous territory. Replace "old people" with another demographic that is disproportionately affected, like "black people". How does that sound now?
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I don't want anybody to die..but millions of people die every dang day whether I want them to or not.

I make a choice every day to get behind a wheel of a vehicle. There is a very real risk that somebody could die or be seriously injured because of that choice..but everybody knows that it is an acceptable and essential risk in todays world.
 
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ReadCT said:
McGill, honestly respect you and your posting history. Try this:

Wife went back to retail job today after two weeks furrow. She will interact with +/- 300 people per day. The Covid-19 rate in Colorado is approx. 1 in 300. The transmission rate is: once you have it, you give it to three. And once you have it, 5% chance you dead. What are the chances she brings it home and kills me? Slim, yes. But I believe her treating everyone like they have it is better than me soon being dead.

Tell me where I am mistaken.
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This thing does not have a 5% mortality rate. That is a big cause of the divide. It is, or has been, highly contagious. It should be treated with respect, but I don't believe you have a 5% chance of dying if you catch it.


We have to open it up, or there will be long lasting economic and social devastation that WILL effect you..why not fear that?

If you are too..concerned...about it to go on with life, then stay home..I won't make light of you, or anybody with real hugh risk issues...but media in Colorado like "Out there Colorado" have been banging the "FEAR DEATH FEAR DEATH!" drum so loudly that a lot of people are scared ishtless of this thing.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
You could say BYU
You could say Georgia St
Hell you could say Jarrett
It’s nothing new.

We can say 1980
We can say 4th and 11
We can say a gross misuse of talent
We can say South Carolina
We can say Butch Jones
Still not new.

What you can no longer deny is the Flea bags upstairs are barking about Kirby. Clock is ticking and everyone is realizing it. It’s never been about talent, it’ll always be about coaching. He can’t get over the hump and last season he did the most Butch Jones thing he could ever do. When things go wrong throw your players under the bus. On the biggest stage.
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Oh, no.... Who moved this awesome post to off topic??????
 
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UTK said:
That doesn't take into the account of the thousands that had it and never got tested because they never felt bad enough to or couldn't at the time. Just remember that. But still being cautious is still the smart thing to do for sure.
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There are those who will never understand or believe that fact. The fear mongering media, and state governments like Colorado's have done a great job of seeing to that.
 
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UTK said:
That doesn't take into the account of the thousands that had it and never got tested because they never felt bad enough to or couldn't at the time. Just remember that. But still being cautious is still the smart thing to do for sure.
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It doesn't take into account those like my sister that had it and never got tested. She knew she had it because she had the same symptoms as the one she was around that was tested and diagnosed with it. She said there was no need to be tested since there was nothing they could do for her, and she would just go to the ER if she started having trouble breathing. She stayed at home beyond the recommended time. She is not counted.
 
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RiotVol said:
Yeah, because I can go to the Johns Hopkins website and see that there was 567 new cases yesterday in Tennessee. And 15 deaths.

To go along with 922 new cases yesterday in Georgia. And 54 deaths.

941 new cases yesterday in Florida. And 44 deaths.

877 new cases yesterday in Texas. And 29 deaths.

119 new cases in Oklahoma. And 4 deaths. Given the stories coming out about this is jacking up reservations in the Southwest, these numbers should be red-flagged as likely under-reported.

So, that's 3426 people that tested positive for a virus that can require you be on a ventilator and damage your kidneys, and 146 people that died in those states. Yesterday.

Clay "Vandy grad failed lawyer internet shock jock" Travis can get f@#$ed if he's taking a W based on that noise. He's feeding the masses bulls@#$ so he can get clicks because there's no sports to talk about.

The Ballad of Clay Travis - The Bulwark
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The second sentence is a bit deceiving as to its value to total stats for TN. Lee is testing all inmates in prisons. So far the vast majority that tested positive are asymptomatic, however, they do inflate the total. There were over 14,000 test results added that day as well. Many other states have not tested large corporate environments such as that including a few neighboring states. They actually seem averse to testing as they should. TN is well on its way to having tested 5% of the population at this rate before the end of May. Currently the state is at 5.6% positives on total tests. That has been declining on the trend line at a steady pace for weeks. For example today's report was 260 positive on nearly 9000 tests. IIRC the high point for TN was 8-9% positives. Even Fauci and Birx said percentages under 10% on that stat were acceptable and indicative of a good ability to contain the damage.

Just a suggestion; the most balanced approach is to compare positives to total number of tests to the state's population. Then check the mortality to population. For example you use Florida and Texas, states with 29 M and 21.5 M in population. Florida is at 7.1% on positives to total tests. They have a little over 3 times more population than TN. So if they were testing like TN, there would be around 900,000 tests so far. They have tested around 600,000. So many residents of FL do not feel the need to test, generally they are not sick. They are outside in the sun in warm weather, not locked up at home. People point to urban areas being problems and the Miami/SE coastal area is. The three most populous counties in that metro make up 55% of the positives in the entire state. Go to Orange County (Orlando) and it is only 1553 positives on 1.4 M in population. Tampa and Jacksonville areas are the same. So some urban areas have serious problems and some do not. Same story in Texas. They have tested about the same number as Florida and have about the same number of positives, yet, have 7.5 M more people. The people of Texas feel the same as Florida. Generally they are not sick. State mortality is a poor stat to use because there are so many factors that cause that to vary including demographics, climate, etc. As I have posted many times, various states record COVID-19 caused deaths differently as well.

Compare those stats to hot spot states - no comparison. May be due to concentration of population in urban areas, climate, life styles, whatever. But you will have to do more work to prove Clay wrong than the stats you quoted.
 
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Vols4us said:
The second sentence is a bit deceiving as to its value to total stats for TN. Lee is testing all inmates in prisons. So far the vast majority that tested positive are asymptomatic, however, they do inflate the total. There were over 14,000 test results added that day as well. Many other states have not tested large corporate environments such as that including a few neighboring states. They actually seem averse to testing as they should. TN is well on its way to having tested 5% of the population at this rate before the end of May. Currently the state is at 5.6% positives on total tests. That has been declining on the trend line at a steady pace for weeks. For example today's report was 260 positive on nearly 9000 tests. IIRC the high point for TN was 8-9% positives. Even Fauci and Birx said percentages under 10% on that stat were acceptable and indicative of a good ability to contain the damage.

Just a suggestion; the most balanced approach is to compare positives to total number of tests to the state's population. Then check the mortality to population. For example you use Florida and Texas, states with 29 M and 21.5 M in population. Florida is at 7.1% on positives to total tests. They have a little over 3 times more population than TN. So if they were testing like TN, there would be around 900,000 tests so far. They have tested around 600,000. So many residents of FL do not feel the need to test, generally they are not sick. They are outside in the sun in warm weather, not locked up at home. People point to urban areas being problems and the Miami/SE coastal area is. The three most populous counties in that metro make up 55% of the positives in the entire state. Go to Orange County (Orlando) and it is only 1553 positives on 1.4 M in population. Tampa and Jacksonville areas are the same. So some urban areas have serious problems and some do not. Same story in Texas. They have tested about the same number as Florida and have about the same number of positives, yet, have 7.5 M more people. The people of Texas feel the same as Florida. Generally they are not sick. State mortality is a poor stat to use because there are so many factors that cause that to vary including demographics, climate, etc. As I have posted many times, various states record COVID-19 caused deaths differently as well.

Compare those stats to hot spot states - no comparison. May be due to concentration of population in urban areas, climate, life styles, whatever. But you will have to do more work to prove Clay wrong than the stats you quoted.
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We'll see. Time will tell.
 
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