Recruiting forum off topic thread (no politics, covid, or hot button issues)

[Jackcrevol]

I will try that with my wife and see where it gets me…. Here are the keys to my truck….. you go haul this sh&t off so we are not following socially constructive norms.
I have no issues with women driving trucks or doing anything that want to do…. I use to date a woman that drove a big rig…..

You called it man work.

Gaylord Fahker was a male nurse. He prob called that man work too.

I'm kidding Volbeast. Just being an ass. Hope you have a good day my friend.

 

[sjt18]

I always wonder what poor people are going to drive if we went all electric…. There are several people that drive 1,000 dollar junk cars all the time…. Won’t be many of them with electric vehicles.

The dirty little secret the big proponents of EV's don't talk about is that they will be much more expensive to buy, own, and operate. Many families will not be able to afford the equivalent of what they have now... and the planners/dreamers behind the switch are OK with that too.

 

[InVOLuntary]

The dirty little secret the big proponents of EV's don't talk about is that they will be much more expensive to buy, own, and operate. Many families will not be able to afford the equivalent of what they have now... and the planners/dreamers behind the switch are OK with that too.

The people behind the curtain want everyone to live in high rise apartments. They don't want the burbs. They want everyone to walk to work, school, store etc. Does this remind you of anywhere?


Edit: should probably move this to off topic for further discussion. Didn't realize where I was.

 

[sjt18]

The people behind the curtain want everyone to live in high rise apartments. They don't want the burbs. They want everyone to walk to work, school, store etc. Does this remind you of anywhere?


Edit: should probably move this to off topic for further discussion. Didn't realize where I was.

Gates is barely able to veil his belief that the answer to all world problems is reduced human population. I think most people are oblivious to the danger guys like him represent.

 

[bignewt]

Gates is barely able to veil his belief that the answer to all world problems is reduced human population. I think most people are oblivious to the danger guys like him represent.

Fewer people is not wrong. Sorry not sorry.

 

[Glitch]

If only there were empirical research showing us that driving gass guzzlers was/is detrimental to the environment. If only we had other options?! Just wish Toyota could create a long lasting battery capable of going long distances before being recharged!

Sorry the gas price complaint doesnt hold much water with me. Americans are spoiled.

So we should all get electric vehicles? We should also shut down coal and nuclear power plants and go to all renewable energy? We are we going to get the electricity to power all these electric vehicles? Also, the carbon footprint and environmental impact from electric vehicles is really not an improvement over internal combustion vehicles when you start factoring in things like the production and disposal of batteries, drain on the electric grid, extra wear and tear on tires from the added weight of all the batteries resulting in more tire replacement and increased tire production. Lot's of unintended consequences in a lot of the environmental actions that the far left wants to impose on us.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Fewer people is not wrong. Sorry not sorry.

Can we start in China?

 

[bignewt]

Can we start in China?

they are on it. i think they have limits in place.

 

[sjt18]

Fewer people is not wrong. Sorry not sorry.

Yeah. It is. But if you really believe it... are you volunteering to do your part first?

Oh, one of those inconvenient, underreported stories on this topic is that the combination of slightly elevated CO2 levels and ice melting (warming) has resulted in a reversal of desertification. Areas of the world formerly arid are now becoming green. That ice that Gore mistakenly thought would raise the sea level and flood NYC instead became part of the hydraulic cycle. Who would have figured (other than people who apply CO2 and water to greenhouses to make plants grow faster and produce more) that increasing CO2 and warmth would be GOOD for plants... and therefore humans and animals?

 

[sjt18]

they are on it. i think they have limits in place.

MOST people in the US and western Europe have voluntarily reduced birth rates. The remaining problem is that we subsidize the bad behavior that causes people who should NOT have children... to have children.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

If only there were empirical research showing us that driving gass guzzlers was/is detrimental to the environment. If only we had other options?! Just wish Toyota could create a long lasting battery capable of going long distances before being recharged!

Sorry the gas price complaint doesnt hold much water with me. Americans are spoiled.

Screw you on this Jack

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You do realize that higher gas prices impact the poor much more than any other class? You realize higher fuel prices just don't add up to increased cost to fill your tank?

You also realize that a large portion of the electricity to charge those batteries is derived from fossil fuels?

You realize that the lithium used in the batteries is not all that environmentally friendly?

No...he doesn't give a ...

 

[Rocky Volboa]

I hate democommies...gas prices started going up as literally as soon as Brandon axed the pipeline right after he was inaugurated, and they have been skyrocketing ever since. Last year in January before that dumbass took office it was $1.79 a gallon. It cost me $60 a week just to get to work now, that doesn't mean much to you guys making $40-50 grand or more a year...it is a hige chunk out of me.


Let's go Brandon!

I drive over 80 miles a day getting to and from work so that’s two tanks of gas a week not including if I go anywhere. And extra $60-$75 a week I could put to better use. My wife also has to drive the same distance but luckily being a rn she only works 3 days a week.

 

[InVOLuntary]

they are on it. i think they have limits in place.

Should have started about 2 billion ago.

 

[bignewt]

Yeah. It is. But if you really believe it... are you volunteering to do your part first?

Oh, one of those inconvenient, underreported stories on this topic is that the combination of slightly elevated CO2 levels and ice melting (warming) has resulted in a reversal of desertification. Areas of the world formerly arid are now becoming green. That ice that Gore mistakenly thought would raise the sea level and flood NYC instead became part of the hydraulic cycle. Who would have figured (other than people who apply CO2 and water to greenhouses to make plants grow faster and produce more) that increasing CO2 and warmth would be GOOD for plants... and therefore humans and animals?

I dont have any kids so yes I did my part.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Screw you on this Jack

Princess, I already admitted to being an ass.

I do think of all the things in the world, griping about gas prices should be low on totem pole.

We all know the drill (get it).

*We know infrastructure isnt there @Glitch
*we know technology is there. Toyota has the patent.
*Edison made a bulb that lasted over 100 years. What good would it do to sell a product that lastednan entire lifetime?
*i dont buy the weak electrical grid wont support it stance. When horse and buggy was watching a Model T go by at 15 mph, I'm sure people thought 'how will we ever support a fleet of these?'
*Large corporations of whom it is beneficial will help subsidize building out of electric charging stations. That should make you red boys happy, private business doing its thing.
*Battery's can be recycled.
*If America can take lead on this, it will help us to reduce our reliance on Middle East & South American countries. You talk about Russian influence?!

 

[SSVol]

Princess, I already admitted to being an ass.

I do think of all the things in the world, griping about gas prices should be low on totem pole.

We all know the drill (get it).

*We know infrastructure isnt there @Glitch
*we know technology is there. Toyota has the patent.
*Edison made a bulb that lasted over 100 years. What good would it do to sell a product that lastednan entire lifetime?
*i dont buy the weak electrical grid wont support it stance. When horse and buggy was watching a Model T go by at 15 mph, I'm sure people thought 'how will we ever support a fleet of these?'
*Large corporations of whom it is beneficial will help subsidize building out of electric charging stations. That should make you red boys happy, private business doing its thing.
*Battery's can be recycled.
*If America can take lead on this, it will help us to reduce our reliance on Middle East & South American countries. You talk about Russian influence?!

Texas grid failed last year. California was telling people to not charge their EVs at various times last year. The grid is a real issue already and there are no easy fixes. Tossing more EVs into it isn't gonna magically reduce the complexity of the problem.

 

[sjt18]

I dont have any kids so yes I did my part.

But there's still you and your contribution to the "imminent destruction of the planet"...

 

[sjt18]

If only there were empirical research showing us that driving gass guzzlers was/is detrimental to the environment. If only we had other options?! Just wish Toyota could create a long lasting battery capable of going long distances before being recharged!

Sorry the gas price complaint doesnt hold much water with me. Americans are spoiled.

And there it is. That belief does NOT give you the right to control other people or make their decisions for them. If you believe it... CONVINCE people. The "spoiled" ones are those who think they're entitled to impose their faux science and resulting policies on EVERYONE.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Princess, I already admitted to being an ass.

I do think of all the things in the world, griping about gas prices should be low on totem pole.
Gas to fill up your tank is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to higher fuel prices. That loaf a bread arrives on a truck. Anything you purchase and bring into your home has a fuel component.

We all know the drill (get it).

*We know infrastructure isnt there @Glitch
*we know technology is there. Toyota has the patent.
*Edison made a bulb that lasted over 100 years. What good would it do to sell a product that lastednan entire lifetime?
*i dont buy the weak electrical grid wont support it stance. When horse and buggy was watching a Model T go by at 15 mph, I'm sure people thought 'how will we ever support a fleet of these?'
Our Grid absolutely will not support a mass switch to electric vehicles. My son, a senior at UT had an entire class dedicated to ideas as to how to store electricity for when people come home and plug in their EV. Even if it did we would still rely on fossil fuels to generate the electricity which in turn would be more harmful to the environment than just putting the fossil fuel right into the gas/diesel engine to begin with because when you convert energy type there is substantial inefficiencies.
*Large corporations of whom it is beneficial will help subsidize building out of electric charging stations. That should make you red boys happy, private business doing its thing.
*Battery's can be recycled.
*If America can take lead on this, it will help us to reduce our reliance on Middle East & South American countries. You talk about Russian influence?!
We could be energy independent if the commies would let us tap our own resources.

Finally, if you really want to make a difference in the environment, the much bigger problem is plastic garbage. The last time we had a major environmental shift was when we were told we had to switch to plastic for everything. So we shifted from paper bags, cups, plates to plastic which is about as bad as nuclear waste. Dumb asses went away from a totally biodegradable, recyclable, renewable solution to something much much worse. Forgive me if I take these so called environmentalist with a full dump truck load of a grade of slaw.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I dont have any kids so yes I did my part.

We appreciate your service.

In all seriousness, isn't the US population projected to be pretty flat over the next few years?

 

[sjt18]

Princess, I already admitted to being an ass.

I do think of all the things in the world, griping about gas prices should be low on totem pole.

We all know the drill (get it).

*We know infrastructure isnt there @Glitch
*we know technology is there. Toyota has the patent.
*Edison made a bulb that lasted over 100 years. What good would it do to sell a product that lastednan entire lifetime?
*i dont buy the weak electrical grid wont support it stance. When horse and buggy was watching a Model T go by at 15 mph, I'm sure people thought 'how will we ever support a fleet of these?'
*Large corporations of whom it is beneficial will help subsidize building out of electric charging stations. That should make you red boys happy, private business doing its thing.
*Battery's can be recycled.
*If America can take lead on this, it will help us to reduce our reliance on Middle East & South American countries. You talk about Russian influence?!

I have a unique recent history. I work in the energy/fuels sector now and previously worked in large scale metal recycling.

These types of batteries cannot be cost effectively recycled. We tried.

The infrastructure absolutely is NOT there. We would have to more than double our transmission capacity to handle the proposed switch. And that has to be done when the world's known reserves of copper are almost gone. The alternative is using aluminum... which reduces effectiveness.

Toyota is one company that appears to see the Hydrogen fuel cell as the answer. That idea answers both the infrastructure and driving range problems. Essentially an electric car with an on board reactor providing electricity. UCF has a working prototype that uses ethanol as its fuel.

The relationship between the US and the Middle East for oil is one of cost and convenience- not necessity. We have more than enough oil to supply our own needs for centuries. Unfortunately the US does not have large reserves of the minerals needed for this type of battery. China does. Their hints at replacing the dollar as the world's reserve currency will quickly become a DEMAND once they have cornered the market on transportation batteries.

This is a complex issue. I believe we need to work away from fossil fuels for health, environmental, security, and future economic reasons. But plug in EV's are not a solution. They are a romanticized dream being shoved down the throats of everyone.

 

[sjt18]

We appreciate your service.

In all seriousness, isn't the US population projected to be pretty flat over the next few years?

I believe that is true based on birth rate. Our major source of population growth will be immigration.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

You do realize that higher gas prices impact the poor much more than any other class? You realize higher fuel prices just don't add up to increased cost to fill your tank?

You also realize that a large portion of the electricity to charge those batteries is derived from fossil fuels?

You realize that the lithium used in the batteries is not all that environmentally friendly?

Of course he doesn’t. He’s just repeating democommie talking points

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The dirty little secret the big proponents of EV's don't talk about is that they will be much more expensive to buy, own, and operate. Many families will not be able to afford the equivalent of what they have now... and the planners/dreamers behind the switch are OK with that too.

They absolutely don't give a