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Glitch said:
I think the number of Justices should be set and a term limit should be set as well. 9 Justices seems like a good number to me. Any more than that and you start to water down the court and it becomes more of a legislative body.
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After the past decade or so where majority leaders have burned the legislative process to the ground in the name of Supreme Court nominations, I want more! 33 of them! 61 of them! I don’t like that the entire political world revolves around a vacancy of a non-democratically elected body. I don’t like the type of hardball that stems from the jockeying to fill these seats. It only creates more polarization, more partisanship. It causes constituents to accept otherwise bad policy decisions from their leaders bc “at least he got us the court picks”. Let the body be more reflective of the country whose laws they rule on. It’s just entirely too much power in the hands of unelected people, I want it diluted! Feels a bit undemocratic, no?
 
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Geaux_Vols said:
After the past decade or so where majority leaders have burned the legislative process to the ground in the name of Supreme Court nominations, I want more! 33 of them! 61 of them! I don’t like that the entire political world revolves around a vacancy of a non-democratically elected body. I don’t like the type of hardball that stems from the jockeying to fill these seats. It only creates more polarization, more partisanship. It causes constituents to accept otherwise bad policy decisions from their leaders bc “at least he got us the court picks”. Let the body be more reflective of the country whose laws they rule on. It’s just entirely too much power in the hands of unelected people, I want it diluted! Feels a bit undemocratic, no?
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Every person has an ideology that certainly can influence decisions. But a many (not all) judges try not to let politics influence decisions and take it to heart to follow the law. Now, sometimes the law can be interpreted differently anyway.

What’s interesting is that I believe the US Supreme Court has issued more decisions this term that are considered “liberal” than “conservative” when it’s a majority conservative court. Chief Justice Roberts is more toward the middle, and two Trump appointees have moved it more to the left with some of their decisions.

It’s not always about politics.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Every person has an ideology that certainly can influence decisions. But a many (not all) judges try not to let politics influence decisions and take it to heart to follow the law. Now, sometimes the law can be interpreted differently anyway.

What’s interesting is that I believe the US Supreme Court has issued more decisions this term that are considered “liberal” than “conservative” when it’s a majority conservative court. Chief Justice Roberts is more toward the middle, and two Trump appointees have moved it more to the left with some of their decisions.

It’s not always about politics.
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It certainly hasn’t gone as most predicted, for sure, though most of what I think people assume are the “liberal” decisions have actually just been the court punting it down the line, as Robert’s is sensitive to the appearance of politicization in the wake of the last three hyper-political appointments.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Every person has an ideology that certainly can influence decisions. But a many (not all) judges try not to let politics influence decisions and take it to heart to follow the law. Now, sometimes the law can be interpreted differently anyway.

What’s interesting is that I believe the US Supreme Court has issued more decisions this term that are considered “liberal” than “conservative” when it’s a majority conservative court. Chief Justice Roberts is more toward the middle, and two Trump appointees have moved it more to the left with some of their decisions.

It’s not always about politics.
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The court hasn't made any landmark decisions either way in some time. The circus has been around the leftist who have made a mockery of the process. Tried to destroy by means of a frame up a decent man in an attempt to block a conservative appointee. Most high court judges do look at the constitution regardless of which side appointed them and yes their rulings have been more left leaning as of late despite the court supposedly being conservative in its makeup.
 
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People have forgotten the ideology this country was founded on. I have zero problem with some liberal drift, but we've forgotten we're a Democratic Republic as some drive us toward a more socialistic society. Politicians have forgotten they are supposed to work together, for the citizens of this country, and are not there simply to accrue power and enforce their own ideology of how things should be. Our federal government is bloated and overreaching, slowly stripping away rights that the Founding Fathers fought for. Congress is too busy with infighting between the parties to worry about seeing to the needs of the country. They waste time with investigations and/or impeachments they know will go nowhere, all in hopes it gives them a leg up when it comes to control. And it's not one side, it's both sides. If you side with one side over the other and cannot see that it's both sides abusing the system, then you're part of the problem. It's infinitely easier to call out "the other side" for wrongdoing than it is to stand up to those you consider allies and tell them, "you're wrong too".
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The court hasn't made any landmark decisions either way in some time. The circus has been around the leftist who have made a mockery of the process. Tried to destroy by means of a frame up a decent man in an attempt to block a conservative appointee. Most high court judges do look at the constitution regardless of which side appointed them and yes their rulings have been more left leaning as of late despite the court supposedly being conservative in its makeup.
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i think both sides are to blame here
 
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Jackcrevol said:
i think both sides are to blame here
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I think the Republicans own some of the underhand tactics of delay and stall when it comes to Democrat President's appointments but it pales in comparison to what they did to judge Kavanaugh. It was plain evil and those responsible I hope pay for it one of these days.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think the Republicans own some of the underhand tactics of delay and stall when it comes to Democrat President's appointments but it pales in comparison to what they did to judge Kavanaugh. It was plain evil and those responsible I hope pay for it one of these days.
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i think its equally parsed. anyway, fortunately we're passed it.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
hold up. I'm trying to avoid going down this road. I'm fully aware of the situation.

Ive got to chill on the political talk, brocephus.
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I think you're a good guy. I think we probably have a wide chasm in how we view our politics. I really think you see the difference.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think you're a good guy. I think we probably have a wide chasm in how we view our politics. I really think you see the difference.
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Voted for Fred Thompson, as he was a personal family friend. That was that.

Always prided on trying to be right down middle, unfortunately people nowadays have to be Blue or Red. I'll say this, in conclusion all this...has opened my eyes to Liberatarianism.

See the difference across lines or in this one specific example? I do see difference in parties, yes. And, as noted above will not hesitate to vote for best person available.

As far as the SCOTUS nominees, I'm gonna back off that one. As I disagree.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Voted for Fred Thompson, as he was a personal family friend. That was that.

Always prided on trying to be right down middle, unfortunately people nowadays have to be Blue or Red. I'll say this, in conclusion all this...has opened my eyes to Liberatarianism.

See the difference across lines or in this one specific example? I do see difference in parties, yes. And, as noted above will not hesitate to vote for best person available.

As far as the SCOTUS nominees, I'm gonna back off that one. As I disagree.
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I've moved more toward libertarianism as well, as long as it's true libertarianism. Many libertarian are just liberals. I call liberaltarians. Those are people that want freedom but don't want the responsibility that goes along with those freedoms.

Like I said, I think you're a good guy. I can't see how anyone would be ok with what the dems attempted to do with their clown show against judge kavanaugh. It was wrong and it would have been equally wrong if the Republicans did it to a Democrat appointee.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I've moved more toward libertarianism as well, as long as it's true libertarianism. Many libertarian are just liberals. I call liberaltarians. Those are people that want freedom but don't want the responsibility that goes along with those freedoms.

Like I said, I think you're a good guy. I can't see how anyone would be ok with what the dems attempted to do with their clown show against judge kavanaugh. It was wrong and it would have been equally wrong if the Republicans did it to a Democrat appointee.
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Understood
 
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Glitch said:
Do you know who does a lot of long term investing? The middle class. You want to tax the middle class more?
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They don't do as much longterm investing as the wealthy. It's about fairness and not about going after anyone in particular.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
hold up. I'm trying to avoid going down this road. I'm fully aware of the situation.

Ive got to chill on the political talk, brocephus.
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InVOLuntary said:
I think you're a good guy. I think we probably have a wide chasm in how we view our politics. I really think you see the difference.
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I think we can settle this at the Waffle House.

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