It's hard to understand you with Saban's running down your chin. How can you not understand what I said? And why in the world would you choose this moment to stan for the beneficiary of the rigging on a massive scale that we just witnessed? It boggles the mind.
There is absolutely no possibility of proving that Saban could win at Bama without cheating with impunity on a massive scale in recruiting and also having the Birmingham office swing games for him when he needed it. Because there is no record of it ever happening in the history of the world. It has never happened. Never.
QED.
You simply cannot in any manner prove your case because you would need at least one data point of Saban at Alabama without cheating and the refs in his pocket and none exist.
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Now, you might picture for yourself in your imagination that someone who won at Toledo or Michigan St would automatically win at Bama, but that is manifestly ridiculous. I would be embarrassed to have even mentioned that, if I were you, while omitting his NFL gig, where he could not cheat in the draft and didn't have the officials in his back pocket.
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So, the least worst opinion (not a proof) you might advance would be that since Saban won at LSU, we would have won at Bama. Do you really believe that? Do you believe Orgeron or Miles, both of who won titles at LSU, might have immediately switched to Bama and had an epic run? Because your thesis literally generalizes from winning at LSU to a run at Bama as an iron-clad inference. So you are proven wrong again, unless you want to say Saban was just luckier than Orgeron or Miles because there is a direct inference from winning at LSU that would have made those two automatically epic, but they didn't get the chance.
What you would need in the case of Orgeron, or Miles, or cheating Nickie would be an actual instance of one of them winning at Bama without massive cheating with immunity and the SEC officials in their back pocket. But you have no instances to cite in the case of either of these three coaches.
All of your alleged proofs fail.
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I'll throw you a bonus. But please note that nothing you say in retort to the bonus effects the result demonstrated above. That argument has concluded.
Now, everyone who pays attention (which perhaps is a small number) and who does not take their opinions from television (an even smaller number) knows as certainly as something of the sort can be known that Saban knew that if he had beaten Bama two years in a row at LSU he would have been put on probation. (I hope you aren't one of those people who think that the Hugh Freeze takedown was about hoes and not his having beaten AL two years in a row.) (People of that stripe are too gullible to reach.)
So, AL offered Saban all the money in the world to change schools. Saban's choice was to go to Bama, where he knew that if anyone beat him they would be put on probation, and that the officials would rig everything in his favor forever. As opposed to getting hit with probation and prolly sanctioned if he managed to beat Bama again. So he took the sure thing: the doubly-rigged sure thing, and the money, and there was never again a possibility of Saban proving that he could win without cheating on a massive scale with impunity and having the SEC office in his back pocket.
You might recall, in this context, that as soon as Saban was at Bama, an event absolutely without precedent in the history of the championship game took place. LSU beat Bama. But Saban at Bama was put into the championship game, anyway! So he got a second chance. If Bama had won, do you reckon they would have put LSU in the BCS game?
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In sum, Saban has simply never won at Alabama under any conditions other than having carte blanche to cheat with impunity on a massive scale and with the officials in his back pocket. And he has even had the BCS bent to his will in a way without precedent.
You have an opinion about an inference from winning at LSU to winning at Bama that most careful observers of SEC football disagree with. And that requires you defend the view that the same would have held of Miles or Orgeron.
Finally, it's a very peculiar opinion to maintain at this exact moment when everyone in the country just saw the Birmingham officiating crew steal the game from Tennessee.
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