‘23 Recruiting Forum: Official Alabama Pregame/Game Thread

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nashvol1 said:
One can be critical of Heupel, see the terrible calls he has made 2 games in a row, and still be supportive of the momentum. Two things can be true.
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Sure. Criticism is certainly ok. I probably phrased that wrong. I'm talking about the ones who are saying things like he's 7 to 10 win coach - the ones that basically are giving up on him. I'm sure there are things coach would like to have back.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
Heupel had another game to forget, but some folks trashing him need to remember the place he brought us out of. This was always going to be a transition year. We just scared the crap out of (and frankly blew this opportunity) Alabama in Tuscaloosa. We will be fine. Our offense is just extremely limited right now. It’s a process, and we aren’t at the destination yet. 2022 isn’t some flash in the pan like some others have said.
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This
We were really bad
I don’t know many that would have a better record then him right now with what we have
 
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JacketVol said:
But if they were not allowed to hold maybe we get 7-8 sacks and it changes what Bama can do and changes so much of the game. We lost by 14 and had three empty RZ possessions but if Milmoran is on his azz then he can’t pass and they can’t score. How much is poor play coming from not having a clean game called where receivers can run clean timing routes. Look at the entire picture of what refs can call and how they call a game instead of a few calls.
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I wish I could like this a hundred times.

Fans need to stop viewing missed calls individually. It's going to happen on both sides of the ball.

However, when they refuse to call a whole category of infraction (holding) which happens to negate the strength of one team and the weakness of the other, it necessarily changes the whole dynamic of the game.

If it breaks your brain in football, think of basketball. If one team plays with finesse while the other team's strength is physicality, the refs decision to either let them play or call it real tight completely changes the whole dynamic of the game.
 
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nashvol1 said:
One can be critical of Heupel, see the terrible calls he has made 2 games in a row, and still be supportive of the momentum. Two things can be true.
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Yup, this mutually exclusive BS is stupid. It's not just the O-play calls, it's the HC decisions at times. Learn from the mistakes and get better.

As an example: Banks is an idiot for playing so much zone coverage. I'm not calling for him to be fired, I like a lot of the D development and see good improvement. I just want him to stop calling so much zone. He's got a LB that is strong and fast in Beasley who can cover TEs and RBs, especially when the latter goes in motion. The LBs are not defensing one single pass in zone. He doesn't spy mobile QBs, so they break contain. Fix it. Enough.

But the above is on Heup. He's the HC. Fix it.
 
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Z06VolinWV said:
Gotcha. I’ve seen it done a 100 times. My son does it in hs when the ball is in the endzone.
NEVER, have he seen it called a fair catch by the non recovering returner!
Hell, for that matter, a D lineman should be able to call a fair catch. How can anyone other than the player making the catch call “fair” or not?! I’m perplexed by this bs call!
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Anyone on the return team can call a fair catch. But the fair catch signal is a wave over the head.
 
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VolGee4 said:
On the road…just be negative.

Don’t do this when we have a very good coach. It’s a very poor look when fans are complaining right now after what we witnessed for 15 years. Disappointed? Sure. But some people are naturally miserable.
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I'm not saying burn down the program or anything like that. I'm just pointing out some areas of concern with our coach, who I think has been amazing at pulling us out of misery.

But that loss was a bad loss. There's no other way of saying it. We looked awful in that game and have a pattern of pissing down on our legs on the road
 
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WangoTango said:
Section 8

Valid Signal
ARTICLE 2.
A valid signal is a signal given by a player of Team B who has obviously signaled his intention by extending one hand only clearly above his head and waving that hand from side to side of his body more than once
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Great find. That's what I thought. No one in the stadium thought 3 was giving a fair catch signal
 
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Vols4us said:
Yup, this mutually exclusive BS is stupid. It's not just the O-play calls, it's the HC decisions at times. Learn from the mistakes and get better.

As an example: Banks is an idiot for playing so much zone coverage. I'm not calling for him to be fired, I like a lot of the D development and see good improvement. I just want him to stop calling so much zone. He's got a LB that is strong and fast in Beasley who can cover TEs and RBs, especially when the latter goes in motion. The LBs are not defensing one single pass in zone. He doesn't spy mobile QBs, so they break contain. Fix it. Enough.

But the above is on Heup. He's the HC. Fix it.
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I get it, but the zone was fine on a key pass to Burton and Slaughter mis-played it. He didn’t try to play the ball, and I thought he could have deflected it. Went straight at the player. We’ve played zone and have had players just not make plays.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I get it, but the zone was fine on a key pass to Burton and Slaughter mis-played it. He didn’t try to play the ball, and I thought he could have deflected it. Went straight at the player. We’ve played zone and have had players just not make plays.
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We suck at zone most of the time. Especially when the opposing offense uses motion before the snap smh.
 
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Vols2DaWall said:
I'm not saying burn down the program or anything like that. I'm just pointing out some areas of concern with our coach, who I think has been amazing at pulling us out of misery.

But that loss was a bad loss. There's no other way of saying it. We looked awful in that game and have a pattern of pissing down on our legs on the road
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Because it’s in conference on the road in a place we haven’t won in 20 years. It happens. Heupel has won road games. Only losses at UF, at Bama, and at UGA (and one at USC). Those first 3 schools are 48-4 at home since Heupel became coach.
 
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volinbama256 said:
man just really sick over this one. Just so blatant of ref screwing, along with how many times we shot ourselves in the foot... would have never thought this would play out this way today...
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The Ref screwing was 100% expected and everyone knew it would happen,
The shooting ourself in the foot is something we do regularly on the road in big games,

So how did you expect it to play out?
 
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GVol1966 said:
It’s a judgment call, So all the officials have to say is in their opinion he made a signal.
One they know they can use to cheat with.
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It isn't a judgment call. That's what makes it so ridiculous. The rule book clearly defines what an obvious signal for a fair catch is. One hand, above the head, to the side of the body, waved more than once. Section 8, Article 2 of the NCAA rule book.
 
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A few points:

1. Bama has a money FG kicker.
2. Going for FGs then going for 4th downs in one's own territory does not consistently put the game in players hands.
3. Sure Milton had a good game with his legs but honestly Bama effectively stopped our run game.

Edit: On no. 2, I probably spoke too soon. Need to wait for the complete analysis of the 6 drive extending calls that favored Bama.
 
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