Recruiting Forum Talk XL

[omghulkhands]

Currie stood by Frank Martins replacement with loosing seasons. Tells me all I need to know..

You obviously dont follow basketball very well.

Bruce Weber has had 1 losing season at Kstate and 3 NCAA appearances in 5 years.

He is a well known, well established and successful basketball coach.

 

[McGeesPub]

Pretty sure Florida is sabotaging any chance they had to draw a big name with the Mac stuff.

And LSU fired Miles on like game 4 and ended up with....The Ogre

Yeah, I'm not so sure you're right about Florida- will be interesting to follow that one. LSU's was much, much, much more egregious than a Butch dismissal would be today. Alleva- quite possibly the worst P5 AD- was locked into Fisher when he almost fired him at the end of 2015, and Herman last year. I believe there are multiple reports that O was his only back up plan.

 

[LA Vol]

Which is exactly how it should be. He is not doing his job if he is catering to our (fan) whims. He must do his job rationally, not emotionally.

Not at all. He came into this position touting open lines of communication and transparency... so communicate. He doesn't need to give specifics of any kind-- he wouldn't and he shouldn't. Fans just want to hear something. That's not emotional-- it's good business and a sign of leadership. CEOs and politicians have done it for generations.

 

[McGeesPub]

Screwing him out of 13 million? That's not at all the picture our administration is painting to potential coaches. Our admin is telling potential coaches that our current coach has done a lot of good for our program over 4 1/2 years and we are allowing him the opportunity to turn it around this season. That's a picture that would resonate with potential coaches.

I'm not sure we understand each other. Florida is absolutely trying to screw Mac out of 13 million.

 

[butchna]

Currie stood by Frank Martins replacement with loosing seasons. Tells me all I need to know..

KNOWING stuff is overrated. Make up facts and b**** about them, I say! :lol:

 

[McGeesPub]

Screwing him out of 13 million? That's not at all the picture our administration is painting to potential coaches. Our admin is telling potential coaches that our current coach has done a lot of good for our program over 4 1/2 years and we are allowing him the opportunity to turn it around this season. That's a picture that would resonate with potential coaches.

And we are now past the point of no return, Ricky.

 

[chavisut]

At this point, bring on Chad. People trying to outsmart themselves have thrown much worse names here.

No.

 

[WTNVol2]

Pretty sure Florida is sabotaging any chance they had to draw a big name with the Mac stuff.

And LSU fired Miles on like game 4 and ended up with....The Ogre

This is what makes me think they are going to go get Mullen. No reason to worry about scaring off potential coaches when you already have a relationship with the Coach you are going to hire.

 

[omghulkhands]

Us firing Butch is not analagous to LSU's egregious treatment of Les Miles nor Flordia trying to weasel out of a buyout to a man that just won them back to back East titles.

We would simply be letting someone go who wasn't adequately doing the job he is, and will continue to be, paid for.

Yeah, that is how you see it and I see it. But what you have to consider is, will that be how a candidate sees it?

 

[Jimmy Football]

Well, it's past noon. Nothing happening today. UT football is sliding towards the cliff.

I can faintly here "O'Doyle rules!" being chanted somewhere in the distance...

 

[DD4ME]

From LWS on VQ...

This makes the most sense when combined with the thought we already have our replacement.

Unfortunately I believe UK tipped the scales on fans willingness to ride with Butch based on no other info.

 

[BruinVol]

Hats off to the players last night. All we hear all week every week is how the team has quit and they keep playing hard as hell. Not sure I have seen a team player harder than last night.

 

[DD4ME]

Having an elite hire ready to announce right after he fires Butch is the only thing that makes sense. Because fans will forget how they feel right now about Currie if when he finally does let Butch go he turns around and announce Jon Gruden or the like as HC. Currie would go from moron incompetent AD to HERO!

Or he sucks at his job.

He is trying to look like a brilliant master mind and I guess he might with Gruden, but I am not really sure he comprehends how bad saying nothing after UK looks.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Yeah, that is how you see it and I see it. But what you have to consider is, will that be how a candidate sees it?

I'm not in agreement that a large swath of coaches would view us firing Butch today as fundamentally unfair or unjustified. If a coach does think it would be unfair, their expectation level for this program is not adequate, and they should not be hired.

 

[LA Vol]

IMO, UF is doing what UGA did last year-- hastening the departure of a coach they might normally keep another year to get in front on another coach who looks like he could go elsewhere. That strategy worked out well for UGA and don't think UF didn't notice.

 

[omghulkhands]

The prevailing thought is that Butch is keeping the team together academically and if he is fired and that falls apart (players skipping class etc..) it sets back the new coach significantly.

This entire situation could even be at the request of the next coach, who knows

 

[jjay2518]

The prevailing thought is that Butch is keeping the team together academically and if he is fired and that falls apart (players skipping class etc..) it sets back the new coach significantly.

This entire situation could even be at the request of the next coach, who knows

Yet somehow this isn't a problem for any other program.

 

[Jimmy Football]

IMO, UF is doing what UGA did last year-- hastening the departure of a coach they might normally keep another year to get in front on another coach who looks like he could go elsewhere. That strategy worked out well for UGA and don't think UF didn't notice.

But what about class attendance?

Checkmate.

 

[HankHill]

IMO, UF is doing what UGA did last year-- hastening the departure of a coach they might normally keep another year to get in front on another coach who looks like he could go elsewhere. That strategy worked out well for UGA and don't think UF didn't notice.

UF has also made 2 straight “bad” hires and 3/4 were bad too. Assuming they hit a homerun is not wise.

 

[LaagerVol]

Over or under on Neyland actual... not reported attendance Saturday...

60,000

Hopefully way under

 

[YorkVol]

The prevailing thought is that Butch is keeping the team together academically and if he is fired and that falls apart (players skipping class etc..) it sets back the new coach significantly.

This entire situation could even be at the request of the next coach, who knows

If Jones is the only reason they are going to class we have bigger problems than we thought

 

[Jimmy Football]

Hopefully way under

People will show up.

As much as we get skewered by media, local and national alike, we're a really good fanbase. To a fault, even.

 

[scvolfan7]

Is Butch Jones the worst football coach you’ve ever watched?

 

[HankHill]

Is Butch Jones the worst football coach you’ve ever watched?

No. Not even close.

 

[McGeesPub]

UF has also made 2 straight “bad” hires and 3/4 were bad too. Assuming they hit a homerun is not wise.

No, but they have a different AD. I don't think Foley was all he was cracked up to be. After all, Meyer was by far the top candidate that year.