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Unless they're booing the officials, I am reasonably some players will perceive that they are booing the team and not just the coach.

Depends on the timing.

Nobody thought Medley was getting booed when Butch wouldn’t go for it on 4th down last year against TTU
 
I saw the Florida guy mention Helton as somebody they might look at. There's no way he'll even get a sniff IMO. I think they're going to go after Frost.

I think Frost is on their list, but maybe not at the top. I also think that they have a reasonably good feeling that one of their top targets is coming. IMO, it will be Kelly, Mullen or possibly Stoops. I hate it, but I think that is what will happen.
 
So if you are Currie, a new AD for the legions of the miserable why do you take heat for retaining a coach you didn't hire. I am not asking anyone to jump to a Gruden conclusion but surely you have thought about this.

I get what you're saying, but Currie won't be judged in the end by this. He'll be judged by the hire and success of the next coach. Whenever that happens. If he believes keeping Butch in place until he can get a Gruden or Frost to commit to the position, it's on him.
 
My thoughts...The Gruden deal is very similar to last time, most of the Boosters are driving this and bullying the AD to hire him. Any legit "insider" is hearing stuff leaking from the booster side, AD side folks like Larry aren't getting as much leakage due to Currie being tight lipped. The AD is full of people with different ideas and that is the main struggle (assuming Gruden actually wants the job).

Gruden wasn't as interested last time around as he is now (kids are older, one son at UT, youngest son likely ends up at UT, wife wants to be near family, ESPN making cuts again soon, he's not getting any younger, etc). I 100% believe boosters have come up with a plan for Gruden to be the next coach. Will ALL of the boosters sign off? Will the BOT, President and Currie come to the same decision? We'll find out.

The good part of all this is that it seems UT is going to swing for the fences this time around (even LWS has said money won't be a problem) and if they don't hit a grand slam it should be at least an inside the parker. JMO

Edit: also another thing that gives me great confidence Gruden or another very good coach will be the next HC is that Manning and Fulmer are heavily involved. Those guys bleed orange more than anyone and they know this hire is extremely important for the present and future of the program.


There is no Gruden deal.
 
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Fantasy land stuff the SEC would love is Gruden to UT and Stoops to UF. Kelly goes to MNF as Gruden's replacement. Less cost in a declining ratings environment. ESPN picks up much higher ratings with CFB and the SEC with Gruden and Stoops added to Saban and Smart. Everybody wins including fans at the schools. A B10 versus SEC rivalry series is announced.

I said "fantasy".
 
No offense to you wonderful people, last night I told myself I was going to take a week break from anything Vols.

11 hours later.. Hello

And this is exactly why somebody in the AD needs to say something. Our fanbase is battered and fractured, but we are united in our passion for our team.
 
I think Frost is on their list, but maybe not at the top. I also think that they have a reasonably good feeling that one of their top targets is coming. IMO, it will be Kelly, Mullen or possibly Stoops. I hate it, but I think that is what will happen.


Pat Dooley said this morning he's heard Norvell, Campbell, Frost and possibly Mullen, in that order. Tifwiw.
 
My thoughts...The Gruden deal is very similar to last time, most of the Boosters are driving this and bullying the AD to hire him. Any legit "insider" is hearing stuff leaking from the booster side, AD side folks like Larry aren't getting as much leakage due to Currie being tight lipped. The AD is full of people with different ideas and that is the main struggle (assuming Gruden actually wants the job).

Gruden wasn't as interested last time around as he is now (kids are older, one son at UT, youngest son likely ends up at UT, wife wants to be near family, ESPN making cuts again soon, he's not getting any younger, etc). I 100% believe boosters have come up with a plan for Gruden to be the next coach. Will ALL of the boosters sign off? Will the BOT, President and Currie come to the same decision? We'll find out.

The good part of all this is that it seems UT is going to swing for the fences this time around (even LWS has said money won't be a problem) and if they don't hit a grand slam it should be at least an inside the parker. JMO

Edit: also another thing that gives me great confidence Gruden or another very good coach will be the next HC is that Manning and Fulmer are heavily involved. Those guys bleed orange more than anyone and they know this hire is extremely important for the present and future of the program.

Pretty good synopsis. That’s why my grudometer is at 20% and won’t move. Just don’t think we’re willing to do what it takes. But, I think we’ll pay for a top level NCAA coach, and that’s exciting
 
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I think Frost is on their list, but maybe not at the top. I also think that they have a reasonably good feeling that one of their top targets is coming. IMO, it will be Kelly, Mullen or possibly Stoops. I hate it, but I think that is what will happen.

Stoops is retired and it will stay that way. I could see Kelly though, otherwise they are going after a sitting coach.
 
I'm part of the problem?

Because I have a best friend coming in from Alaska I grew up with up there and have known for 30 years and I want to take him to see Neyland stadium and experience everything that entails, even though the team has not performed up to standard? Should I tell him no we aren't going because I am protesting the AD? Seriously?

You girl need to check yourself, stop calling people out and pull out the vanity mirror and take a hard look.

You grew up in Alaska?
 
I agree with you here. I will also add that if Currie is delaying the release simply because he knows that it will be a good gate on Saturday anyway, then that is incredibly short-sighted and actually kinda dumb.

No debate. UTAD is counting on the longstanding loyalty of alums and fans to fill the stadium on Homecoming.
 
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