Recruiting Forum: UNofficial Mizzou Pre-Game Thread

[SouthKnoxVOL]

so.......is there any chance we lose to Vandy?

I haven't watched them in a few weeks. Are they still really bad?

If we lose to Vandy next week......this whole staff needs to be fired immediately.

 

[JacketVol]

i agree but i think you have to look at opponent here. mizzou is very weak on offense and pretty decent on defense.

we literally played like texas A&M on defense. missing tackles everywhere. sure they were on the field more often but mizzou's offense is awful.

our offensive playcalling was suspect and the game plan seemed to just ignore the fact that theyve got great pass rushers. at the end of the day i think dobbs could have avoided a few more sacks than he did and the offensive line could have played better. whats more the coaches should have called on von pearson to get some other things going on offense. mizzou's defense is just incredibly disciplined and plays very, very smart.

Here is the deal on D. We missed the emotional AND the leading tackler on the D tonight. The Germanator did not lead the team and play sideline to sideline tonight. That is not a knock on him but he is not at this point as a freshman = to a guy who was on track to be a high NFL draft pick. The D missed A.J. tonight and it is not even open for debate. It killed this team tonight in production and spirit.

 

[C-town Vol]

We set a record for true freshmen started in a game and play the likely SEC East champs to a 1 possession game. It's the small things.

Yeah we are definitely getting closer. However, as that game went on (even before Missouri broke it open) I felt very doubtful that we would win. Why? Because Missouri is used to winning those games. We aren't. That was a classic, ugly, physical SEC game. We are still learning to win. That includes players and staff. The USCe game was not a fix all. It was a piece to a large puzzle.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I do with what I have seen with Dobbs now. Earlier in the year, I would have agreed. But if we play an above average DL or worse, Dobbs is good enough. We may still struggle with elite defensive lines. Give me wins against 3 bad OOC games, UK, Vandy, Arkansas, and USC. Let's play ball with the others, and our defensive line will be much improved to slow them down. JMO.

Did you see Arky dismantle OM today? I bet Arky play MO much better than we did and may just beat them.

 

[jjay2518]

Not disagreeing J but the games are won in the trenches and we'll lose most of those matchups on the Oline.

It'll definitely depend on how much the OL improves. I think there's reason to believe they'll be noticeably better.

 

[C-town Vol]

Here is the deal on D. We missed the emotional AND the leading tackler on the D tonight. The Germanator did not lead the team and play sideline to sideline tonight. That is not a knock on him but he is not at this point as a freshman = to a guy who was on track to be a high NFL draft pick. The D missed A.J. tonight and it is not even open for debate. It killed this team tonight in production and spirit.

no doubt.

 

[C-town Vol]

If we lose to Vandy next week......this whole staff needs to be fired immediately.

well alright...haha

 

[jjay2518]

Here is the deal on D. We missed the emotional AND the leading tackler on the D tonight. The Germanator did not lead the team and play sideline to sideline tonight. That is not a knock on him but he is not at this point as a freshman = to a guy who was on track to be a high NFL draft pick. The D missed A.J. tonight and it is not even open for debate. It killed this team tonight in production and spirit.

I underestimated how much we would miss him. Somebody will have to step up next year.

 

[Burger]

I underestimated how much we would miss him. Somebody will have to step up next year.

We will have Bowl Practice, the Spring Game, Summer conditioning, and Fall Camp for someone to step up.

 

[jave36]

Here is the deal on D. We missed the emotional AND the leading tackler on the D tonight. The Germanator did not lead the team and play sideline to sideline tonight. That is not a knock on him but he is not at this point as a freshman = to a guy who was on track to be a high NFL draft pick. The D missed A.J. tonight and it is not even open for debate. It killed this team tonight in production and spirit.

True. But offense has to score a TD before end of 4Q when other team is in prevent and letting you have it. Especially with the awesome field position Berry and Darr gave us over and over.

Defense didn't lose this one. Was just like ole miss, if offense can't do anything, D will eventually give up points.

 

[C-town Vol]

I underestimated how much we would miss him. Somebody will have to step up next year.

Fortunately the staff will likely have the Vandy game, a bowl game, spring practice and fall practice to figure that out. I really think him being out will be a blessing in disguise that gives us a head start on playing without him next year.

Edit:
I got Burgered...

 

[VolGee4]

Did you see Arky dismantle OM today? I bet Arky play MO much better than we did and may just beat them.

Arkansas' strength is on the OL. Our DL will be much better next year. Our OL should be ok with their DL. They are better, but we get them at home. Those are the games that we have to start winning. I just believe the OL will be better with Dobbs next year. Not elite but better and that should win us another game or two.

 

[UT = Checkmate]

I don't understand y foreman came out of the game. And I Thank Coleman for his time here but I also don't know how Coleman plays one on one. I'd rather try gaulding or anyone else. Coleman freezes up EVERYTIME. Losing AJ hurt and it showed tonight.

 

[C-town Vol]

True. But offense has to score a TD before end of 4Q when other team is in prevent and letting you have it. Especially with the awesome field position Berry and Darr gave us over and over.

Defense didn't lose this one. Was just like ole miss, if offense can't do anything, D will eventually give up points.

I agree we lost this on offense. I really thought we would score in the 30s. I underestimated their D for sure.

 

[74volz]

Here is the deal on D. We missed the emotional AND the leading tackler on the D tonight. The Germanator did not lead the team and play sideline to sideline tonight. That is not a knock on him but he is not at this point as a freshman = to a guy who was on track to be a high NFL draft pick. The D missed A.J. tonight and it is not even open for debate. It killed this team tonight in production and spirit.

100% agree. You could easily see the difference. Maggit did fine and will lead next year, but without AJ there was an obvious difference. At least we got a taste of what it'll be like next year. Bates, Bryant and Maybin will be in control next season..

 

[InVOLuntary]

Arkansas' strength is on the OL. Our DL will be much better next year. Our OL should be ok with their DL. They are better, but we get them at home. Those are the games that we have to start winning. I just believe the OL will be better with Dobbs next year. Not elite but better and that should win us another game or two.

We'll see I guess but I just can't fathom this Oline making much of a jump at all.

 

[VolGee4]

I don't understand y foreman came out of the game. And I love the cold! I also don't know how Coleman plays one on one. I'd rather try gaulding or anyone else. Coleman freezes up EVERYTIME. Losing AJ hurt and it showed tonight.

Coleman has to play one on one when they go four or five wide. Good coaching on the other side. We also had two LB's in no man's land on that play. They were 8 yards off the ball with no one around them.

 

[jjay2518]

Fortunately the staff will likely have the Vandy game, a bowl game, spring practice and fall practice to figure that out. I really think him being out will be a blessing in disguise that gives us a head start on playing without him next year.

Edit:
I got Burgered...

That's a good point. The team knows what they need to fix now.

 

[volfanCLT]

Mizzou deserved to win this game. Their strength is our weakness.

 

[jjay2518]

Coleman has to play one on one when they go four or five wide. Good coaching on the other side. We also had two LB's in no man's land on that play. They were 8 yards off the ball with no one around them.

The coverage baffled me. Man across the board on the back end with two LB's in shallow middle zones covering nobody.

 

[VolGee4]

We'll see I guess but I just can't fathom this Oline making much of a jump at all.

All I am saying is that the OL is better with Dobbs at QB. Tonight we played an elite DLine. If we just play an average one, Dobbs will make a difference. I truly believe the Florida game could have been different with a prepared Dobbs. I could see us breaking through with a top 15 win.

 

[JacketVol]

True. But offense has to score a TD before end of 4Q when other team is in prevent and letting you have it. Especially with the awesome field position Berry and Darr gave us over and over.

Defense didn't lose this one. Was just like ole miss, if offense can't do anything, D will eventually give up points.

Did not say D lost it but they were not able to get off the field as much and we still only loss by one possession. Despite the O struggles, I think we win with AJ. The O would've had more plays because we would've been able to get off the field more. Plus team feeds off of all of its leaders.

 

[volatil]

Mizzou deserved to win this game. Their strength is our weakness.

They were solid

 

[nashvol1]

Just to make absolute certain that horse is dead

More impressed that you got that angle. But again, that was not the original argument. Also it's not the feet that determines. The other angle still shows arm and head over.

Hats off to Medley and Darr. We won special teams tonight.

 

[volatil]

More impressed that you got that angle.

Hats off to Medley and Darr. We won special teams tonight.

I have this camera thing figured out just in time for my upgrade.

Darr played well. Medley kicked that ball out of bounds right after we took the lead. Other than that he had a good game. Medley has the onside kick down. That's not easy.